Check your WLAN Session timeout - this forces a full re-auth at the specified
interval.  The default for dot1x is every 30 minutes.  You may want to make this
value larger.  The User Idle Timeout will do the same thing, but most laptops
generate enough incidental traffic to keep the idle timer open.  Smaller form
factors may not be as chatty.  
 
If its due to roaming, you may want to use WPA2/AES rather than TKIP, as this
supports Proactive Key Caching.  Do a "sh pmk-cache all" on the controllers to
verify.

Bruce T. Johnson | Network Engineer | Partners Healthcare 
Network Engineering | 617.726.9662 | Pager: 31633 | bjohns...@partners.org | 
149 13th Street, 10th Floor, Mailstop 10055B, Charlestown, Ma  02129 

 

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We are using MS IAS for radius  with PEAP. We don't have trouble getting folks
configured and connected. Just after that we get complaints of 'getting kicked
off' and was wondering if anyone else sees this sort of behavior. I suspect this
mostly occurs during roams, but don't really have any hard data to back that up.

 

Thanks, 

Bob Richman

Network Engineer

University of Notre Dame

 rrichma...@nd.edu

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We have a separate PDA network with MAC filtering and restricted ACLs to make up
for MAC filtering being weak.

 

Daniel Bennett

IT Security Analyst

Security+

 

PA College of Technology

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Williamsport PA 17701

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Last time I checked, Windows mobile didnt come with a dot1x supplicant (that
worked). Do you require users to purchase their own supplicant or do you have a
site license?

Lelio Fulgenzi, Senior Analyst

Computing & Communications

University of Guelph

519-824-4120 x56354

 

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On Feb 19, 2009, at 8:09 AM, Lee H Badman <lhbad...@syr.edu> wrote:

        Hi Bob-

         

        We've been doing dot1x now for a few years, and in my opinion people
tend to struggle with:

         

        -          What EAP type to use

        -          What RADIUS server to use

        -          How to get supplicants configured, and whether or not to
support a variety of supplicants

        -          What about AD machines over wireless

         

        We chose PEAP w/ MS-CHAPv2 because it's well supported natively in both
Windows and Mac machines. That being said- we had to say no more support for
Windows 2000, 98, Me, etc. Same on Mac- a minimum OS was required. We avoided
other EAP types that require a per-device cert, and officially only support the
native Windows supplicant and native Mac supplicants for ease of support. 

         

        We also chose to stick with our "classic" Cisco ACS 3.3.3 boxes- simply
because we already had them, and they do a rock-solid job as well as provide
decent logs (important). They also talk well with our AD credential store for
user credential verification.

         

        We have found the ID Engines- now Cloudpath- supplicant configuration
tool to be key to our success in that we can point users to a "help SSID" for
initial client config, or self-remediation later if they hose their settings.
Very powerful- but again, requires that users use Windows and Mac native
supplicants and disable all of the ProSet, Broadcom, Toshiba, etc wireless
utilities. We also provide basic settings in document form for advanced users
that won't give up their third party utilities, and for Linux/handheld users
that we can't auto-configure.

         

        Driver issues will manifest themselves more on a dot1x network- the rule
of thumb is to keep them updated, or as a minimum, update before going to 1x.
This often helps windows machines when nothing else will. On the Macintosh side,
unfortunately it seems that even minor code updates can wreak havoc on the
wireless driver and 1x utility- but once you get past whatever new curve ball
Apple throws you, they work very reliably. 

         

        As for AD machines on wireless- is a whole different ballgame.
Officially, we do not support AD machines over our wireless networks, but if the
machine name is the same as the userID, it will work in our environment.

         

        Then there's loaner laptops... and NAC integration... and how to handle
visitors on the network. All have solutions, but you may have to get creative.

         

        We have 2000+ APs, 12 WiSMs, and typically see 5,500-6,000 users at peak
on our wireless networks daily. In the dorms (100% covered) wired usage has
fallen to less than 20% of what it was 2 years ago, and has become mostly an
"entertainment" network. 

         

        -Lee

         

         

        Lee H. Badman

        Wireless/Network Engineer

        Information Technology and Services

        Syracuse University

        315 443-3003

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        To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
        Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Transitioning to dot1x

         

        We are in the process of trying to move all of our users to our wpa/wpa2
dot1x wireless. We hope to shut down the wide open non-authenticated ssid this
summer. We've had numerous communications sent out and we always seem to get
responses that the new dot1x network is slower than the old and that people have
trouble maintaining a connection.

         

        I am curious as to how other schools approach this. Is it possible that
a dot1x only network magnifies trouble areas of wireless coverage? Or is it that
the dot1x network is more sensitive to client issues. Or could it be something I
had not mentioned.

         

        BTW, we are a Cisco WISM/LWAPP shop.

         

        Thanks!

         

        Bob Richman

        Network Engineer

        University of Notre Dame

         

        Rich ma...@nd.edu

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