Careful what you wish for......I can recall installing my first AP and 
wishing/watching for days until I got my first wireless user......now I 
wish they'd get lost!...;+) 

 We peak at approx. 6000 IPs dhcp'd out but only approx 80% of those IPs 
are actually used.  The rest are sucked up by devices whose radios are 
simply powered on.  We still assign public IPs and are good for a while 
yet but there may come a day when PAT will be necessary.  We try to make 
our subnets as large as we dare.  Eg. A /22 subnet facilitates a more 
efficient use of IPs than 4 /24s.

..........J

James Savage                                   York University 
Senior Communications Tech.       108 Steacie Building
[email protected]                            4700 Keele Street
ph: 416-736-2100 ext. 22605            Toronto, Ontario
fax: 416-736-5830                                M3J 1P3, CANADA 



From:   Jason Appah <[email protected]>
To:     [email protected]
Date:   12/15/2009 11:00 AM
Subject:        Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Private IP space for wireless users- 
anyone?
Sent by:        The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
<[email protected]>



I wish we had your volume, 650 peak

-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [
mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 3:36 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Private IP space for wireless users- anyone?

Thanks for all of the responses- I wonder if anyone with a peak usage like 
ours is doing NAT- almost 6500 clients?

-Lee
________________________________________
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason Appah 
[[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 11:03 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Private IP space for wireless users- anyone?

Yes, that is what we do. I just wondered how big if a bear it would be
to track pat in a university wireless environment.

In a second related note, we recently changed our NAT timeout from 3
to 2 hours as we were beginning to run out of 1 to 1 NAT ranges

Sent from my iPhone

Jason Appah
Systems Administrator
Oregon Tech

On Dec 14, 2009, at 6:33 PM, "Phil Trivilino" <[email protected]> wrote:

> We do 1to1 dynamic NAT on the ASA firewall and log all the
> translations to a syslog server.  Easy to get the private ip from
> the log given the time and global ip.  It is all we've seen the need
> for to this point.
> Phil
>
> On Dec 14, 2009, at 8:55 PM, Lee H Badman wrote:
>
>> Wondering how many other schools are using private IP space for
>> wireless users, how you accomplish the NAT, and what mechanisms you
>> use for user tracking for the private-public mappings for forensic/
>> investigatory purposes.
>>
>> Thanks-
>>
>> Lee
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