The arionet 1240 AG have a 5 GHz radio only for 802.11a.

Hernan Badilla
INCAE Business School
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On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 12:22, Heath Barnhart
<[email protected]>wrote:

>  I agree with Joel, 80-100 users per AP is a bit much on an AP. What's the
> ratio of 2.4 GHz to 5 GHz? I'm not familiar with the 1240 (have a couple
> but none of them work), do they have any smartRF built in (can they "nudge"
> dual band clients to 5 GHz)?
>
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> Heath Barnhart, CCNA
> Information Systems Services
> Washburn University
> Topeka, KS 66621
>
> On 11/10/2011 11:30 AM, Coehoorn, Joel wrote:
>
> Your problem is probably air time density.
>
>  The issue is that you only have 3 non-overlapping channels to work with
> in the 2.4Ghz space, most users won't have 5Ghz-capable laptops, each
> channel only supports about 25 clients from a practical standpoint, each
> access point is likely only listening on one specific channel, and you have
> up to 400 users trying to connect all at about the same time.  That's just
> not going to work.  Things get better a few minutes after a class starts
> because some students will just give up, and most others will settle down
> to only use air time only in short bursts, as they load and then pause to
> read pages.
>
>  The typical solution is turning down the transmit power, such that
> signal for each access point does not leave it's own classroom, and then
> add access points to each classroom such that you're listening on more of
> the available channels within the rooms. The goal is to reduce the cell
> size (and therefore number of clients) served by each access point, and
> increase the available channels. You can do this by adding access points,
> or by getting single access points with multiple independent radios that
> are capable of using the additional channels simultaneously.
>
>  Even here, you'll likely still have issues as many of the laptops will
> not turn down power to their own radios and still clutter up the air space.
>  It would be like trying to listen to the professor if most students in the
> classroom were also having conversations among each other at their normal
> speaking volume.
>
>  As for distributing traffic, there are different load-balancing options
> out there depending on your vendor.  But even with generic thick access
> points you'll see quite of bit of load balancing happens naturally, without
> you having to do anything special so encourage it.  You ought to be able to
> just add the access points without needing to do much of anything for load
> balancing.
>
> Joel Coehoorn
> IT Director
> York College
> 402.363.5603
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Ethan Sommer <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  With almost any manufacturer you can set a max number of clients per
>> radio. You could set the max per radio to 25ish and put (capacity of
>> classroom/25) APs per classroom.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/10/2011 10:54 AM, Luis Fernando Valverde wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> we have four adjacent classrooms (two in front of two and 5 meters
>> between each one) with capacity to 80-100 students each one.    Each
>> classroom has its own Cisco Aironet 1240 AG Access Point.
>>
>> When all the students inside the classroom connect their computers to the
>> wireless network, response time behaves very slowly for several minutes,
>> until the traffic network stabilizes and reaches a better performance.   We
>> have tested other AP including Ruckus (802.11 b/g/n) and the problem
>> remains.
>>
>> We could install two AP by classroom, but we would need to distribute the
>> connections between each one.  Does someone know a solution without having
>> to use different SSIDs to distribute traffic among multiple access points?
>> Does someone have any suggestion to solve this issue, including other
>> access point manufacturer?
>>
>> Any comment is welcome.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
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>> INCAE Business School
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