I like that idea, and I wouldn't have thought of it, but once you point it out, it does make sense to me that that should work.
Have you tested a configuration like this and confirmed that a Wii will still connect? I ask only because it also made complete sense to me that I should be able to completely turn off 802.11b and still have a Wii that's advertised as an 802.11g continue to work. I found out I was making a wrong assumption only after announcing that we'd be ending 802.11b support, only to have to roll back to make wii's continue to work. On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:33 AM, David Rose <[email protected] > wrote: > For those that have to deal with devices (namely Wii's) that can only > connect if 1 and/or 2 Mbps is enabled, there is another way to prevent > 802.11b devices from connecting to your wireless allowing those devices to > connect. > > Remove 1, 2, 5.5 and 11 from your basic/required data rates and use 6, 9, > and/or 12 instead. With 1/2 Mbps supported/allowed, Wii's which are > 802.11g have no problems connecting, but 802.11b devices can't because they > are unable to do the 802.11g required data rate(s). > > David > > > > > On 3/19/2013 8:59 AM, Adam Forsyth wrote: > > So Bruce, > > You disable the 1Mbps rate, and leave 2Mbps rate enabled so the Wii's > can connect. Do you disable any of the other 802.11b rates as well? > > I turned off all of the B rates a few years ago but then quickly learned > about the Wii issue. While I like the solution of keeping the b rates off > and telling the wii users to use an ethernet cable, we have a few locations > where students live that are wireless only, so that option doesn't work for > us. I ended up relenting and turning the B rates back on to make the Wii > users happy. Reading this conversation I'm thinking about taking another > shot at disabling some of the slower rates, but leaving 2Mbps for the Wii > people. > > On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Osborne, Bruce W <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Actually, only early OS Nntendo Wii needed 1 mbps. They need 2 mbps, >> though. We have had 1 mbps disabled for years with no adverse effects. >> >> >> >> Bruce Osborne >> Wireless Network Engineer >> >> IT Network Services >> >> (434) 592-4229 <%28434%29%20592-4229> >> >> LIBERTY UNIVERSITY >> 40 Years of Training Champions for Christ: 1971-2011 >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Palmer J.D.F. [[email protected]] >> *Sent:* Saturday, March 09, 2013 3:06 PM >> *Subject:* Re: Disabling 802.11b speeds >> >> You can run a report from within NCS (and no doubt WCS) to give you >> all users using a particular connection protocol, eg 802.11b. >> >> Navigate to… >> >> Reports > Report Launch Pad > Client > Unique Clients > Unique Clients >> Report Details >> >> Then select ‘All’ for ‘Report by’ and ‘Report Criteria’, then select >> ‘802.11b’ from the ‘Connection Protocol’ from the respective dropdowns. >> >> >> >> A side note, disabling 1mbs stop Nintendo Wii consoles from associating. >> >> Is anyone aware of any other device that is known to suffer when >> disabling any of the faster speeds? I have Kindle in my mind for some >> reason when disabling 6mbs. >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Jezz. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto: >> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Tristan Gulyas >> *Sent:* 09 March 2013 03:53 >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Disabling 802.11b speeds >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> We're looking into this, too. >> >> >> >> What's the best way to obtain data as to which clients are only >> 802.11b-capable on a Cisco environment? I do see a few connections at >> 802.11b data rates but we'd ideally like to know how many legacy devices >> out there that we have. >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Tristan >> >> >> >> On 09/03/2013, at 8:22 AM, Alan Nord <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Thanks for the quick responses. I like the idea of using client band >> select so I am going to go the same route as many of you and disable the >> specific data rates. Going to give Andy's config a try. >> >> >> >> Thanks again! >> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Palmer J.D.F. <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Unless something has changed then I understand this is the way to do >> it if you intend to use Band Select, as Band Select makes it mandatory for >> all bands/Radio Policies to be enabled. >> >> So you enable all Radio Policies (inc .11b), but disable the .11b speeds. >> >> >> >> From the footnotes of WLAN > ‘SSID Name’ > Advanced on the controller >> management GUI. >> >> 8. Band Select is configurable only when Radio Policy is set to 'All'. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jezz. >> >> >> >> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto: >> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Andy Page >> *Sent:* 08 March 2013 19:08 >> >> >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Disabling 802.11b speeds >> >> >> >> >> >> We only went with the option of turning off the data rates, so I can’t >> attest to what your consultant is telling you, but the way we did it worked >> exactly as we intended. Here’s a look at the settings from one of our >> controllers. >> >> >> >> <image001.png> >> >> >> >> Andy Page >> >> University of Notre Dame >> >> >> >> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [ >> mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>] >> *On Behalf Of *Alan Nord >> *Sent:* Friday, March 08, 2013 1:53 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Disabling 802.11b speeds >> >> >> >> Sorry to drum up an old thread, but I am contemplating disabling 802.11b. >> We have not had any users on 'b' in the last 6 months and are confident >> about turning it off. One question I do have for those of you that use >> Cisco controllers, is how are you turning 'b' off? I talked to a network >> consultant and they said to go into each WLAN and set the "Radio Policy" >> option to "802.11a/g Only" and that would take care of it. It looks like >> most in this thread change the data rates to disabled under Wireless > >> 802.11b/g/n > Network. I am curious to know which method is better and >> what your settings look like. We are running code line 7.0 but will be >> upgrading to 7.2 soon if that makes a difference. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Alan >> >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Jeffrey Sessler <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> So if you have a dense deployment of AP's, then leaving the lower rates >> enabled should not present an issue - at least I've not seen one. >> Additionally, as my campus is 75% Macintosh, they tend to connect at 5GHz, >> so I don't mind having the lower rates enabled in 2.4GHz to help out all >> the gaming devices and such. >> >> >> >> Jeff >> >> >> >> >>> On Thursday, September 27, 2012 at 5:54 AM, in message < >> [email protected]>, "Todd M. Hall" < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> This has been discussed in the past, but it has been a long time. >> >> We're at the point that we have to turn off the lower connection rates on >> our >> campus. I'm curious what other schools have done and the >> positive/negative >> results from the changes. We have disabled 1, 2, 5.5, and 11 Mbps in >> some of >> our buildings with great success, but some might argue to just eliminate >> 1 & 2 >> Mbps rates. Also, I'd be interested to hear from schools that have not >> disabled >> these rates and why not. >> >> -- >> Todd M. 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