While significantly smaller than most on this list, I would like to throw in my 
two cents:

We are using Meraki to manage our Ipads, ipods, etc.  It works great.  Having 
said that, if there is any interruption (internet, problems with firewall, 
their site, whatever) the only downside would be that we could not install 
apps, change settings, etc. until the issue was rectified.

I hesitate to put something that is more critical, like a wireless controller, 
offsite as it is a more time sensitive system.  Even without internet our users 
can logon and work locally.

We are using a Ruckus ZD3000 with 31 APs and have had zero downtime, coverage 
is excellent, and speeds are fast.  We feel strongly enough about it we 
purchased a second ZD3000 and have them synced at all times.  The failover is 
instant (almost) and the second unit was very inexpensive.  Best thing about 
the Ruckus is the interface is MUCH easier than the Aruba that we retired.  .  
The APs act independent from the controller (for the most part.

Maybe I am showing my age, but giving up all control to "the cloud" spooks me.

Hope that helps,
Bob Williamson
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jesse Safran
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 8:23 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Distributed WiFi model - Thin vs Thick debate 
revisited

Aerohive is not cloud only.  They do have a Virtual HiveManager that you can 
run on VMWare.  One of the things that really makes them stand out from Meraki, 
IMO.

On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Thomas Carter 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Additional items I'm sure you've seen in the archives, but not listed here:
Controller Pros:

-          Easy central config management and monitoring

-          Centralized rogue detection and coutermeasures
Controller Cons:

-          Controllers are critical hardware to monitor and manage

-          License chaos (do you have the correct licenses on the controller 
for the APs you have)

The cloud-based "controllerless" options like Aerohive seem to strike a middle 
balance, but I'm a little leery; too many cloud-based things are not living up 
to the hype.

Thomas Carter
Network and Operations Manager
Austin College
903-813-2564<tel:903-813-2564>
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 On Behalf Of Barros, Jacob
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 9:52 AM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Distributed WiFi model - Thin vs Thick debate revisited

Hello all.  We are seriously considering replacing our Aruba infrastructure in 
favor of a distributed model.  We are having controller issues this academic 
year and the appeal of a controller-less model is strong.

It feels like I am coming full circle to where I was six years ago.  Though I 
know its not exactly the same, I went back to the thin vs thick debates in the 
archives.  A few things stood out to me as considerations:  One concern was 
vendor longevity.  Another was whether or not the thick AP model would be able 
to keep up with the controller based architecture.  An advantage of the 
controller based architecture that stood out to me was central processing, 
specifically regarding key exchange.

Are these points still valid concerns?  If your administration asked you to 
consider a distributed architecture, what other (vendor-neutral) concerns would 
you have?

Thanks, in advance, for your opinions!



Jake Barros  |  Network Administrator  |  Office of Information Technology
Grace College and Seminary  |  Winona Lake, IN  |  574.372.5100 
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