I have found that this delay will go away if the cert used for WPA2 auth is
updated to also always trust for SSL.

find the cert in Keychain Access - then under trust settings add Secure
Socket Layer (ssl) - by default only EAP and X.509 is explicitly trusted

Unfortunately this is something that needs to be changed on each client
device - and one needs root/admin priv on the macbook to make the change.





On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Jeffrey Sessler <[email protected]>wrote:

>  Based on the feedback I'm starting to think that the delay in auth is
> triggering a login fail on the Cisco side, and after three attempts, it's
> excluding the client for 15 mins.
>
> One of my students said: "The WPA WiFi just goes away and then I can't
> connect to any of the SSIDs (WPA, portal, open) - after 15 mins it starts
> working again." I'm also seeing a significant increase in the excluded
> clients count.
>
> In one residential hall, I found a few AP's not on the same controller,
> and moved them all to the same, and it does appear to help, especially for
> those between AP's.
>
> Jeff
>
> >>> On Wednesday, September 25, 2013 at 11:33 PM, in message <
> 9b14e007db035b49b466f094e5a6ed3638f25...@mailmb02.ad.adelaide.edu.au>,
> Jason Cook <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Thanks Mike,
> A bit of playing has shown why we haven’t had too many complaints, but
> when there is one we know why. The one user that had issues every couple of
> minutes was in between 2 AP’s, but each AP had a  different controller
> backend so re-auth. Migrated so that both AP’s were on the same  controller
> and issue went way. Well it’s still there, however the trigger event for a
> re-auth is much less so the impact is minimal. Typically we keep all AP’s
> in a building on the same controller.****
>
> Jeff,
> We have Cisco so yes, but we don’t have a guest portal. If a client can’t
> connect it  normally falls back to the next available in the wlan list. **
> **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> --****
>
> Jason Cook****
>
> Technology Services****
>
> The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005****
>
> Ph    : +61 8 8313 4800****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jeffrey Sessler
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 25 September 2013 1:41 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Problems with new Apple Laptops****
>
> ** **
>
> Are Cisco customers seeing this as well? I'm seeing a number of Macs
> falling back to a guest portal from our WPA2, and I'm wondering if this
> problem is related to it.****
>
>  ****
>
> Jeff
>
> >>> On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 at 6:24 AM, in message <
> CAHh=-9XjmX=fbwata0glcjb4pna8hao628yarc3zc1t29lt...@mail.gmail.com>,
> "Hanson, Mike" <[email protected]> wrote:****
>
> Jason,****
>
> ** **
>
> Here is more information from an Aruba wireless forum. Seems to be an
> issue with Macs and certs.****
>
> ** **
>
>
> http://community.arubanetworks.com/t5/groups/groupmessagepage/board-id/edu/message-id/200#M200
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> Mike****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Mike Hanson, CISSP
> Network Security Manager
> The College of St. Scholastica
> Duluth, MN 55811****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Jason Cook <[email protected]>
> wrote:****
>
> Just wondering what the various workarounds people have tried with any
> success at all to this issue? The first patch doesn’t appear to have done
> the job, and who knows when the final fix will come. I seem to remember it
> took Intel the best part of a year to resolve 802.11n issues in their 5000
> series cards. ****
>
> We had one user who was getting dropouts every couple of minutes with
> sometimes an almost instant re-connect to minutes. This was after
> installing the update patch. The device has no such issues however on a
> WPA2/AES-PSK network. This has been good to provide a solution there,
> however PSK’s are not overly scalable for a campus.****
>
> Another user reports that disabling v6 & some sleep settings have helped
> the situation somewhat. I’m hoping to get more information on that sometime
> today. ****
>
> I see Travis mentioned below an idrequest time-out increase from 5-30
> seconds on Aruba.****
>
> I’m doing a bit of research now and considering little session of testing
> later in the week so was interested to see what people have tried and how
> much it’s helped. Either client or network side.****
>
> --****
>
> Jason Cook****
>
> Technology Services****
>
> The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005****
>
> Ph : +61 8 8313 4800****
>
> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Shandon Bates
> *Sent:* Saturday, 20 July 2013 10:19 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Problems with new Apple Laptops****
>
> Should be patch issued...
>
> Sent from my iPhone****
>
>
> On Jul 19, 2013, at 5:10 PM, "Shandon Bates" <[email protected]> wrote:*
> ***
>
>  Patch issues for air issues.****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> http://mashable.com/2013/07/19/macbook-air-wifi-fix/****
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone****
>
>
> On Jul 19, 2013, at 4:53 PM, "Travis Schick" <[email protected]> wrote:
> ****
>
>    I've been getting reports of issues with macbooks on our
> wpa2-enterprise ssid - then I finally got one and was able to do some hands
> on troubleshooting.****
>
> It appeared the mac would decide to roam - but then would fail to auth -
> and get stuck in authentication step - wifi menu icon just cycling like no
> connection. Worked with our vendor (aruba) and decided to increase the
> default idrequest timeout from 5 sec to 30sec. I think there's something
> going on when reauthenticating to another AP on the same ssid. tunnel setup
> takes a while on the macbook - I think it may be related to the cert -
> using the incommon cert - so have server cert incommon intermediate and
> addtrust root ca... this is a chunk of data that gets fragmented... not
> sure if the mac doesn't like reassembling it - takes exception to it
> comming from a new bssid or what. But it does look like increasing the
> timeout helps... still a few second without connectivity - but sure as heck
> beats the macbook getting stuck in its authentication step and staying
> offline until user intervenes.****
>
> so still looking into it, but perhaps that info might prove helpful to
> others.****
>
> macbook is running 10.8.4 - and I was running that prior to changing my
> timer settings.****
>
> Travis Schick****
>
> UCDavis Network Operations Center****
>
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