Having just done it, I can say that for your own users that want to leverage Eduroam while you travel, it's quite easy once you federate your RADIUS servers with Eduroam's, and that Philippe's team is phenomenal to work with in that regard. Then there is educating your travelers to use the while [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> if you don't already (is required for eduroam).
For getting it going on your own campus, is no more difficult than rolling out another SSID (but as you can see, that is as much philosophical as it is technical at times). Not resource intensive- great folks on Eduroam end to help, and nice feather in your school's cap. -Lee From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt Williams Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 4:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Eduroam rollout- one more time I don't want to hijack this discussion, and I'll apologize now for it, but I do have an eduroam question. How resource intensive is it to implement and maintain an eduroam deployment? We are a smaller institution, but we've had a handful of requests from faculty members to adopt eduroam. There is some hesitation because we don't want to invest a whole lot of time to maintain a service that may get used by 2 or 3 people per semester. Respectfully, Matthew "Will" Williams Assistant Director, Networking Bucknell University 570.577.1491 On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Lee H Badman <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Nothing busted, but also not buying it. Every environment is different, every organization's IT offerings are marketed a different way, and I'm not accepting analysis from afar that there is no value in our branding. I'd caution against such a blanket dismissal of how every institution that values their own network name is somehow wrong. You may have multiple SSIDs with names that not only mean something singularly, but also in relation to each other. And to "simply" change, at least for us, means a lot of user education, document changing, and a move to something that quite honestly feels kinda sterile. I am a bit amused by what borders on what seems to me to be an almost cult-like mentality that sometimes enters into these Eduroam discussions, or the willingness to accept that because it's what is driven by European institutions that no one here should question the philosophy. It's all just good discussion, and why there has to be a right or wrong to it (Go to Eduroam SSID makes you right, or don't and be wrong) is beyond me. We're living up to our end of the Eduroam agreement, but also aren't looking for a religion lesson. Respectfully- Lee Badman From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Hanset, Philippe C Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 3:40 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Eduroam rollout- one more time Lee, I hate to bust your identity pride ;-) but... In my experience the only people that care about the SSID names are the IT Crowd and some of the University administrators. (when will we have TV series on University Administrators?) Users just want something that works...they don't even look at SSIDs these days. Now, if like Birthday Cards, we start having singing SSIDs...that might be a different story! Philippe Philippe Hanset www.eduroam.us<http://www.eduroam.us> On Nov 1, 2013, at 3:26 PM, Lee H Badman <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I hear you, and appreciate it it a point. At the same time, I don't buy into losing our identity to be part of something global, especially when measured in terms of 16K+ users on our branded campus WLAN at daily peaks, and a few dozen Eduroamers expected. In other words, why change something that statistically everybody is used to for the sake of statistically nobody? Not trying to quibble, just explaining where we come from. I actually think Eduroam should be more accommodating to individual SSIDs, but get why it can't work that way now. Hopefully Hotspot 2.0 lives up to it's billing as the cure-all for this sort of thing. Lee H. Badman Network Architect/Wireless TME ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003<tel:315.443.3003> ________________________________ From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] on behalf of Hector J Rios [[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 3:17 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Eduroam rollout- one more time We originally adopted the #3 option, but we are planning to retire our 802.1X SSID soon and just have everyone use eduroam. It just makes sense. What we have seen is that when on campus, we push our users to use our main SSID, but then when they go to participating universities, they sometimes have issues connecting to eduroam because they are not familiar with it. We figured that we are part of a global effort and we will never be 100% involved in it unless we get push our own users to use it as their main SSID when at home. That way when they go to other participating institutions, it will be seemless! Just the way it is supposed to work Hector Rios Louisiana State University From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-<mailto:WIRELESS->[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 11:35 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Eduroam rollout- one more time I know this comes up frequently, so forgive me. We're at a different place than we were at last inquiry... Syracuse University has become an Eduroam school, and as we speak we have happy Eduroamers around the world. Woo Woo! At the same time, we have yet to roll out Eduroam on our own campus and are getting ready to in accordance to the Eduroam agreement. We're trying to figure out the best model: 1. Retire our own beloved 802.1x SSID, and use Eduroam in its place. This has no favor with any of us, including our senior IT managers and so is not gonna happen. (Though I value the opinions of others, not wanting to get into a debate on this point :) ) 2. Do a targeted rollout of Eduroam, in places where it is likely to be used by visitors- academic buildings, etc. (So far, I can't find evidence of anyone coming to SU and asking for it). This model requires building a new WLAN group or two and pushing it out to probably 20ish buildings out of our 200+ buildings. 3. Go the easy path, and push it the Eduroam SSID everywhere, as an additional WLAN, and live with the fact that it won't get a lot of use in most places and puts management traffic in the air that isn't generally going to be used. I can't be the only one who has stood at this juncture and looked at the situation the same way. Wondering what others have done between #2 and #3, and what your level of satisfaction has been for whatever path you took. 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