I would love to have a vendor free List serv

I am happy to look into this for us.


Michel Davidoff
Director CyberInfrastructure
California State University, Chancellor's Office
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Cell 707 481 1084

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From: John McMillan 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Wednesday, March 5, 2014 at 9:50 AM
To: 
"[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] List abuse? SecureW2

I received enough junk mail from vendors before I joined the educause lists 
that I can't blame it on that, but the vendors definitely actively monitor the 
lists. Just say something negative and wait for your phone to start ringing 
(I'm looking at you Cisco and Fortinet). I don't particularly mind, but it did 
catch me off guard the first time.


On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Peter P Morrissey 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I’m sure that happens even more then we realize. Anyone can join the list, and 
harvest data from it. What vendor wouldn’t want such a source of targeted 
customers? I have often thought that it would be great to have a listserv 
without vendors. The other challenge to having vendors on the list is that I 
sense that a lot of people are fearful of having candid discussions regarding 
their experiences with the vendors present. The result is that we as consumers 
are left at a severe disadvantage in obtaining data to make informed decisions.
Pete Morrissey
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
 On Behalf Of Jeffrey Sessler
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 12:03 PM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] List abuse? SecureW2

I'd be interested in knowing if other members on the list who are Cloudpath 
customers have recently been contacted by SecureW2?

I received and unsolicited marketing email from them today touting their 
product, including the fact that "quite a few" former XpressConnect customers 
have switched to them. As proof, the marketing email links back to a Jan 16th 
discussion on this list where someone from Rutgers posted about their 
experience.

I suspect they collected my email from the list thus why I'm interested in 
knowing if other Cloudpath customers on the list got a similar email.
Do the educause list rules allow use of posts in marketing?
For Rutgers, are you aware Securew2 is using you in their marketing material?

best,
Jeff
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