>> We are using directional patch antennas to keep the coverage to the
auditorium as well as use a higher mandatory rate.

Mind sharing what antennas you use?

Thanks

Norman


On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 3:12 PM, McClintic, Thomas <
[email protected]> wrote:

>  We have installed in a few auditoriums to help enhance the wireless
> there. We are using directional patch antennas to keep the coverage to the
> auditorium as well as use a higher mandatory rate.
>
>
>
> I have seen no issues with clients hanging on to ac, however I see only
> about 5-10% of users associating with ac right now. I'm sure that will
> change in the next year.
>
>
>
> This is our strategy on ac for now, we are deploying in high density areas
> and using various mechanisms to isolate the coverage cell.
>
>
>
>
>
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> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Cameron, Damien L.
> *Sent:* Monday, March 17, 2014 2:03 PM
>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 11ac migration question
>
>
>
> I believe it's recommended that you upgrade floor by floor, and building
> by building.
>
>
>
> If you don't have that capability, I would suggest upgrading the hardware,
> but not enable the VHT capabilities until all hardware has been upgraded.
> I'm not totally sure of .11ac's protection mechanisms, but doing this would
> also avoid any unforeseen issues of an mixing VHT clients/APs with non-VHT
> clients/APs.
>
>
>
> *Damien Cameron*
>
> Network Engineer
>
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> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [
> mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>]
> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Kell
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 16, 2014 1:05 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 11ac migration question
>
>
>
> Have seen similar results with Dell laptop locking onto 802.11n at a
> distance and ignoring "same room" a/b/g.  We are trying to avoid mixed
> deployments, and sounds like the same concerns extend to 11ac as well.
>
> Jeff
>
> On 3/15/2014 11:12 PM, Alok Vimawala wrote:
>
>  Hi Frank,
>
>
>
> We just had an interesting incident in one of our buildings where half of
> the ac radios stopped working. The building has Cisco 3602i APs with the
> add-on 802.11ac Wave-1 module. So, the building turned into a mixed 802.11n
> and 802.11ac deployment on the 5GHz spectrum. What we saw in that building
> was that new Apple MacBook Pros with the 802.11ac capable chipsets were
> preferring to associated with a bad 802.11ac signal rather than connecting
> to a great (AP right above the laptop) 802.11n signal.
>
>
>
> Clients seem to prefer protocols with highest theoretical throughput
> regardless of signal strength and that behavior hasn't really changed since
> the days when 802.11n was first introduced. My recommendation would be to
> avoid mixed 5GHz 802.11n and 802.11ac environments.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Alok Vimawala
>
> University of Michigan
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 9:54 PM, Frank Sweetser <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
>   we're beginning plans to upgrade our wireless infrastructure from 11n to
> 11ac, and I'm hoping that someone can chime in on their experience with
> mixed capability buildings.
>
> When we first went from  11a/b/g to 11n, we found that clients in
> buildings with mixed capability APs had some odd roaming issues - and by
> "odd", I mean utterly braindead.  A fair number of clients would
> aggressively latch onto an 11n AP at -80, while ignoring an a/b/g AP in the
> same room at -50, with predictably poor results.  In the end, we had to
> ensure that buildings were upgraded in full, rather than incrementally, to
> fix the complaints.
>
> My question is, has anyone seen similar issues in buildings with a mix of
> 11ac and 11n APs?
>
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