For those that have already migrated some buildings to 802.11ac, what are your 
general findings for AP placement?

We have an Aruba environment. Based on guides and virtual surveys using 
VisualRFPlan it seems like I am coming to the conclusion that an AP per 
classroom (depending on size - mostly medium sized 20' by 20') would provide 
sufficient performance.

Also is your goal to provide full ac coverage, or full n coverage with ac 
capabilities in classrooms?

Thanks.

Damien Cameron
Network Engineer
Norfolk State University
Office of Information Technology
Marie v. McDemmond Center for applied Research
Room 401
555 Park Avenue
Norfolk, VA 23504
O: (757) 823-9123


-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeff Kell
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 11:27 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 11ac migration question

I sort of "missed my conclusion"... so my apologies, let me add that part...

On 3/17/2014 11:04 PM, Jeff Kell wrote:
> Well, some client drivers will let you tweak the "advanced" settings.
> I know I can "prefer 5Ghz" and I can "prefer N" on my aging laptop 
> (yeah, it was my Dell below, trying to track a client issue back to 
> the wiring closet where we hung a leftover Aruba AP65 (a/b/g only), 
> and my own freaking laptop was hanging on to an "n" on a floor below).
> It also appears that iOS 7.1 update changed the "captive portal 
> detection" on Apple devices... so if you're having issues with your 
> "registration portal" for new devices, you might double-check their 
> captive portal site check.

I suppose you can provide the "option" for user-selectable advanced settings 
(perfer 5Ghz, perfer N, turn off wireless upon wired connect,
etc) all have their benefits, but also mean that any user that can find the 
right buttons can shoot themselves in the foot :)

And when the vendors make less than ideal choices (if Apple is "choosing 5G" or 
"choosing "n" or "ac" if available) it shoots many of their users in the foot. 

That would clearly be a design decision that nobody can really universally be 
happy about (just look at Bonjour, mDNS, AppleTV, etc...
fine for home, lousy for campus/enterprise).

As personal (BYOD) things continue to grow in popularity, we need to EXPECT 
them to be optimized for home use.  I suppose not until the density of these 
devices get to the point where apartment neighbors are fighting with each other 
by pushing content to the other's AppleTVs...
and we have some controversy / conflict / court cases, they're not going to get 
the hint either :(

There is no "universally" predictable model to follow, but (hint,
hint...) if you have authenticated to a wireless network via 
802.1X/WPA2/Enterprise, hey, you're probably not in somebody's house :)

Waiting on DHCP options to support some of these ideas... assuming they would 
be supported afterward (e.g., DNS suffix search list finally approved, and 
still not accepted by any windows clients).  But oh wait, DHCP... in IPv6 days? 
 What WAS I thinking of...  :)

Jeff
Jeff

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