Sure!

http://www.terra-wave.com/shop/245-ghz-6-dbi-mimo-quad-patch-antenna-with-rptnc-plug-connector-p-2075.html

The Georgia Tech story came out after we installed, but looks like these may do 
exactly what some people need in auditoriums (we used 3702 though). We didn't 
get a straight cone like they state in the specs, it seemed to be larger spread 
on the horizontal plane. It worked wonderfully and removed the issues we were 
seeing with the omni which allowed clients to stay on an AP across the room at 
a lower PHY.

They also came out with a very slick mounting bracket after we had begun 
installing. It mounts the AP and the antenna to a flush look that can still be 
angled any direction. I have a quote with the part number, but I can't seem to 
get it to load. SKU 568800 from Tessco.

I'm going to look into the 10/11 ones next, we have a higher ceiling auditorium 
+25 ft. left to do.

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Norman Elton
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 3:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 11ac migration question

>> We are using directional patch antennas to keep the coverage to the 
>> auditorium as well as use a higher mandatory rate.

Mind sharing what antennas you use?

Thanks

Norman

On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 3:12 PM, McClintic, Thomas 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
We have installed in a few auditoriums to help enhance the wireless there. We 
are using directional patch antennas to keep the coverage to the auditorium as 
well as use a higher mandatory rate.

I have seen no issues with clients hanging on to ac, however I see only about 
5-10% of users associating with ac right now. I'm sure that will change in the 
next year.

This is our strategy on ac for now, we are deploying in high density areas and 
using various mechanisms to isolate the coverage cell.


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 On Behalf Of Cameron, Damien L.
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 2:03 PM

To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 11ac migration question

I believe it's recommended that you upgrade floor by floor, and building by 
building.

If you don't have that capability, I would suggest upgrading the hardware, but 
not enable the VHT capabilities until all hardware has been upgraded. I'm not 
totally sure of .11ac's protection mechanisms, but doing this would also avoid 
any unforeseen issues of an mixing VHT clients/APs with non-VHT clients/APs.

Damien Cameron
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeff Kell
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 1:05 AM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 11ac migration question

Have seen similar results with Dell laptop locking onto 802.11n at a distance 
and ignoring "same room" a/b/g.  We are trying to avoid mixed deployments, and 
sounds like the same concerns extend to 11ac as well.

Jeff

On 3/15/2014 11:12 PM, Alok Vimawala wrote:
Hi Frank,

We just had an interesting incident in one of our buildings where half of the 
ac radios stopped working. The building has Cisco 3602i APs with the add-on 
802.11ac Wave-1 module. So, the building turned into a mixed 802.11n and 
802.11ac deployment on the 5GHz spectrum. What we saw in that building was that 
new Apple MacBook Pros with the 802.11ac capable chipsets were preferring to 
associated with a bad 802.11ac signal rather than connecting to a great (AP 
right above the laptop) 802.11n signal.

Clients seem to prefer protocols with highest theoretical throughput regardless 
of signal strength and that behavior hasn't really changed since the days when 
802.11n was first introduced. My recommendation would be to avoid mixed 5GHz 
802.11n and 802.11ac environments.

Thanks,

Alok Vimawala
University of Michigan

On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 9:54 PM, Frank Sweetser 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hello all,

  we're beginning plans to upgrade our wireless infrastructure from 11n to 
11ac, and I'm hoping that someone can chime in on their experience with mixed 
capability buildings.

When we first went from  11a/b/g to 11n, we found that clients in buildings 
with mixed capability APs had some odd roaming issues - and by "odd", I mean 
utterly braindead.  A fair number of clients would aggressively latch onto an 
11n AP at -80, while ignoring an a/b/g AP in the same room at -50, with 
predictably poor results.  In the end, we had to ensure that buildings were 
upgraded in full, rather than incrementally, to fix the complaints.

My question is, has anyone seen similar issues in buildings with a mix of 11ac 
and 11n APs?

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