I think we've all had our share of pains with these various vendors.  I think 
I've had the worst time with Android.  Most recently, we've discovered that 
Android only allows one CA chain to be selected at any time to verify radius 
server certificates, so the migration plan from godaddy to a private CA isn't 
going to happen, despite the fact that we've been installing the private CA 
cert chain on android devices (through cloudpath), in anticipation of this, for 
over a year.  Android installs all the CAs, but can only select one CA to 
verify.  No dice for us, as we don't want people to have to go in and manually 
change their radius CA verification chain if we switch from godaddy to a 
private CA....  this is one of many problems we've had with android.

Anyway, back to the point.  Does anyone know if Educause has a technical group 
that meets with these vendors to discuss the pain points?  It seems like having 
a high level meeting once or twice a year, with representatives from those 
companies and some technical leads from higher ed, would be a huge benefit.

What do others think?

Ryan H Turner
Senior Network Engineer
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
CB 1150 Chapel Hill, NC 27599
+1 919 445 0113 Office
+1 919 274 7926 Mobile


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