While I suspect the FCC could potentially dictate that we are not allowed to 
use ACTIVE measures to disassociate users from access points not within our 
control, I would think they have no authority to dictate what devices we allow 
to be connected to our network.  So, students could run an access point, but 
they wouldn't be able to connect it to anything...  making it kinda worthless.

Ryan H Turner
Senior Network Engineer
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
CB 1150 Chapel Hill, NC 27599
+1 919 445 0113 Office
+1 919 274 7926 Mobile

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Helman
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 4:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] It would seem FCC just declared WLAN quarantine 
features illegal

I just saw this on CNN and jumped on the list to post. Using your own AP is 
against the AUP everyone signs at our institution. Now I wonder if that clause 
is invalid.

-Brian


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-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Sweetser <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: 
"[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Fri, 03 Oct 2014 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] It would seem FCC just declared WLAN quarantine 
features illegal
I think a good chunk of the use is even more insidious than that.  I've been
in a position where I've offered university guests access to our wifi.  A
number of these users - smart, highly technical IT professionals - instead
just said "Nah, I'll just use my hotspot."

I suspect it's a combination of two things.  First, "I paid for it, so I have
to use it to get my money's worth".  Second, "I'd have to think about how to
set up a new wifi, or I can just turn on my hotspot by rote memory."

In both cases, the cost (or lack thereof) and quality of any host offered wifi
doesn't even factor into the decision at all.

Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu<http://wpi.edu>    |  For every problem, there is 
a solution that
Manager of Network Operations   |  is simple, elegant, and wrong.
Worcester Polytechnic Institute |           - HL Mencken

On 10/3/2014 3:21 PM, Philippe Hanset wrote:
> Everything would be so much simpler if locations would provide Wi-Fi for free
> or at a reasonable price.
> When a technology is used by everyone (e.g. Electricity) like Wi-Fi, just
> include it in the cost of doing business.
> Stop charging users for Wi-Fi, especially when the room is already at
> $200+/night. People will bring their own Mi-Fi or smartphone-hotspot,
> and bypass the silly cost model!
>
> At Educause this week the Vendor-floor was plagued with hundreds of Mi-Fi and
> private Wi-Fi.
> The event was charging upward of $150/day for Wi-Fi to exhibitors. So, many of
> them had their own solutions!
>
> Humans are resourceful...and if you piss them off they will read the law and
> call the FCC (or they pirate your network ;-)
>
> Philippe
>
> Philippe Hanset
> www.eduroam.us<http://www.eduroam.us> <http://www.eduroam.us>
>
>
>
> On Oct 3, 2014, at 2:22 PM, Lee H Badman 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>
>>
>> What do you all think of this?
>> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/10/after-blocking-personal-hotspot-at-hotel-marriott-to-pay-fcc-600000/
>>
>> - Lee Badman
>
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