(I've stumbled into that particular reddit a few times, but it's always struck me as dominated by home users choosing between Netgear and Asus, and enthusiasts working on tinfoil antennas. r/networking is much more useful, once you get past the love affair with Ubiquiti.)

I think this Aruba presentation from 2013 shows a perfect example of the kind of impedance mismatch between SOHO and enterprise environments that gives large scale wifi operators ulcers:

http://community.arubanetworks.com/t5/Americas-Airheads-Conference/Breakout-Wi-Fi-Behavior-of-Popular-Mobile-Devices/gpm-p/129135

In short, many mobile devices optimize their roaming algorithms to pick between a (relatively) low speed metered 3G/4G connection, and a high speed zero cost SSID that exists solely on a single AP. The resulting "till death do us part" roaming behavior (I'm looking at you, android!) leaves us the mess that requires engineering resources be dumped into features like Aruba Clientmatch to paper over.

Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu    |  For every problem, there is a solution that
Manager of Network Operations   |  is simple, elegant, and wrong.
Worcester Polytechnic Institute |           - HL Mencken

On 10/6/2014 1:00 PM, Lee H Badman wrote:
Thanks. Kinda funny, I took a beating on Reddit for this. See
http://www.reddit.com/r/wireless/comments/2htize/wifi_as_we_know_it_is_doomed/
to be amused.

I think you’re either faced with these issues- trying to juggle a lot of
complicating factors and still delivering Wi-Fi that works and won’t land you
in the headlines as the next data breach- or you’re not. Those who have never
had to deal with it can’t relate.

Regardless, we are all heading down a weird road. The status quo just isn’t
sustainable.

-Lee

*From:*The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *T. Shayne Ghere
*Sent:* Monday, October 06, 2014 12:54 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] HP Printers / WiFi Direct

Lee,

This was a GREAT article that shows what we’ve been preaching for years.  This
year so far has been our worst to date.

S

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<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>] *On Behalf Of *Hall, Rand
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*Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] HP Printers / WiFi Direct

+1 We have been absolutely plagued by interference this year. It's always been
manageable in the past...but not this year. The proliferation of devices is
mind-boggling. I have an idea that the only way to clean the air in the
residences is to turn off the power. The stuff running off batteries, for the
most part, play nice.

Wi-Fi is doomed:

http://wirednot.wordpress.com/2014/09/29/wi-fi-as-we-know-it-is-doomed/


Rand

Rand P. Hall

Director, Network Services                 askIT!

Merrimack College

978-837-3532

rand.h...@merrimack.edu <mailto:rand.h...@merrimack.edu>

If I had an hour to save the world, I would spend 55 minutes defining the
problem and five minutes finding solutions. – Einstein

On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Thomas Carter <tcar...@austincollege.edu
<mailto:tcar...@austincollege.edu>> wrote:

We seem to be having more and more wireless interference from devices that are
not wireless routers/APs. HP printers and their obnoxious setup wireless are
becoming more common, and this semester we've seen a few devices using WiFi
Direct (basically an ad-hoc wireless network) - the PS4 has the ability to
connect to other Sony devices, and Roku players that used WiFi for its remote
control.

This forks from the "FCC just declared WLAN quarantine features illegal"
thread, but how are you dealing with these other forms of wireless
interference. We've essentially had to resort back to physically locating them
and knocking on doors. We printed up an information sheet to slide under
doors, and communicate with residential staff, but it seems to have mediocre
success. We've also tried to communicate to students that the cause of slow
wireless is most likely interference from other devices in an attempt to
utilize peer pressure as well.  Unfortunately it seems to all be very time
consuming to track down and communcate.

Thomas Carter
Network and Operations Manager
Austin College
903-813-2564 <tel:903-813-2564>

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