Here's another article that addresses some of the same issues:
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/sbiddle/8728

Pete Morrissey

-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Frank Sweetser
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 1:14 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] HP Printers / WiFi Direct

(I've stumbled into that particular reddit a few times, but it's always struck 
me as dominated by home users choosing between Netgear and Asus, and 
enthusiasts working on tinfoil antennas.  r/networking is much more useful, 
once you get past the love affair with Ubiquiti.)

I think this Aruba presentation from 2013 shows a perfect example of the kind 
of impedance mismatch between SOHO and enterprise environments that gives large 
scale wifi operators ulcers:

http://community.arubanetworks.com/t5/Americas-Airheads-Conference/Breakout-Wi-Fi-Behavior-of-Popular-Mobile-Devices/gpm-p/129135

In short, many mobile devices optimize their roaming algorithms to pick between 
a (relatively) low speed metered 3G/4G connection, and a high speed zero cost 
SSID that exists solely on a single AP.  The resulting "till death do us part" 
roaming behavior (I'm looking at you, android!) leaves us the mess that 
requires engineering resources be dumped into features like Aruba Clientmatch 
to paper over.

Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu    |  For every problem, there is a solution that
Manager of Network Operations   |  is simple, elegant, and wrong.
Worcester Polytechnic Institute |           - HL Mencken

On 10/6/2014 1:00 PM, Lee H Badman wrote:
> Thanks. Kinda funny, I took a beating on Reddit for this. See 
> http://www.reddit.com/r/wireless/comments/2htize/wifi_as_we_know_it_is
> _doomed/
> to be amused.
>
> I think you’re either faced with these issues- trying to juggle a lot 
> of complicating factors and still delivering Wi-Fi that works and 
> won’t land you in the headlines as the next data breach- or you’re 
> not. Those who have never had to deal with it can’t relate.
>
> Regardless, we are all heading down a weird road. The status quo just 
> isn’t sustainable.
>
> -Lee
>
> *From:*The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *T. Shayne 
> Ghere
> *Sent:* Monday, October 06, 2014 12:54 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] HP Printers / WiFi Direct
>
> Lee,
>
> This was a GREAT article that shows what we’ve been preaching for 
> years.  This year so far has been our worst to date.
>
> S
>
> *From:*The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> [mailto:[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Hall, Rand
> *Sent:* Monday, October 06, 2014 11:13 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] HP Printers / WiFi Direct
>
> +1 We have been absolutely plagued by interference this year. It's 
> +always been
> manageable in the past...but not this year. The proliferation of 
> devices is mind-boggling. I have an idea that the only way to clean 
> the air in the residences is to turn off the power. The stuff running 
> off batteries, for the most part, play nice.
>
> Wi-Fi is doomed:
>
> http://wirednot.wordpress.com/2014/09/29/wi-fi-as-we-know-it-is-doomed
> /
>
>
> Rand
>
> Rand P. Hall
>
> Director, Network Services                 askIT!
>
> Merrimack College
>
> 978-837-3532
>
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>
> If I had an hour to save the world, I would spend 55 minutes defining 
> the problem and five minutes finding solutions. – Einstein
>
> On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Thomas Carter 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> We seem to be having more and more wireless interference from devices 
> that are not wireless routers/APs. HP printers and their obnoxious 
> setup wireless are becoming more common, and this semester we've seen 
> a few devices using WiFi Direct (basically an ad-hoc wireless network) 
> - the PS4 has the ability to connect to other Sony devices, and Roku 
> players that used WiFi for its remote control.
>
> This forks from the "FCC just declared WLAN quarantine features illegal"
> thread, but how are you dealing with these other forms of wireless 
> interference. We've essentially had to resort back to physically 
> locating them and knocking on doors. We printed up an information 
> sheet to slide under doors, and communicate with residential staff, 
> but it seems to have mediocre success. We've also tried to communicate 
> to students that the cause of slow wireless is most likely 
> interference from other devices in an attempt to utilize peer pressure 
> as well.  Unfortunately it seems to all be very time consuming to track down 
> and communcate.
>
> Thomas Carter
> Network and Operations Manager
> Austin College
> 903-813-2564 <tel:903-813-2564>
>
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