The documentation from the website mentions SENSUS USA, FCC-Licensed spectrum
At the same time, John Watters is being asked to investigate Ruckus APs 
Zoneflex T300 (mentioned in his original email) to be installed in LED lights.
In a second email from John the brand GlobalGreenLightning is being mentioned.

So the sentence “industry leading wireless control system” made me mix Ruckus 
and SENSUS USA.

But now I’m curious… is the whole lightning system wirelessly controlled by 
SENSUS USA and in addition
there is room to add Wi-Fi?  (Does it have to be Ruckus?)

Chris Howard, since you are in Chattanooga and so is GGL (and I’m at least 100 
miles away from you in Knoxville),
could you tell us more?

Sorry about this mess,

Philippe

Philippe Hanset
www.eduroam.us



> On May 12, 2015, at 2:42 PM, Jason Watts <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On May 12, 2015, at 2:26 PM, Philippe Hanset <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> John,
>> 
>> It looks like if your University selected GlobalGreenLightning
>> you really don't have a choice as to which AP vendor you can use.
>> 
>> http://www.globalgreenlighting.com/technology 
>> <http://www.globalgreenlighting.com/technology>
>> 
>> "To do this, we have merged cutting-edge, low-energy lighting with an 
>> industry-leading wireless control system”
>> 
>> So the Ruckus AP is actually a requirement.
>> 
>> Am I reading this wrong?
> 
> Philippe,
> 
> Where on the page you linked is Ruckus even mentioned? I read that page as 
> talking about the lighting control system which it says runs on a licensed 
> band using technology licensed from Sensus. Probably some lower frequency 
> non-wifi stuff. I don’t see Ruckus mentioned on that page unless I’m missing 
> something.
> 
> Jason Watts | Senior Network Administrator
> 
> PRATT INSTITUTE
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Philippe
>> 
>> Philippe Hanset
>> www.eduroam.us <http://www.eduroam.us/>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 12, 2015, at 1:54 PM, Howard, Christopher 
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> They are based out of Chattanooga so of course we have had discussions with 
>>> them.  We decided against APs in lights for a number of reasons.  
>>> 
>>> 1. We are an Aruba shop.  We want a seamless roaming experience for our 
>>> users and feel that multiple vendor networks would hinder that.  We also 
>>> have 1 wireless admin for the entire campus and don't have the manpower to 
>>> manage a separate wireless network.
>>> 2. They wanted to put security cameras on the lights as well.  Since we use 
>>> separate vlans for cameras and APs, we would need a switch.  However, the 
>>> only switch they would put in the light was unmanageable.
>>> 3. They didn't want to run cable from the lights back to our network and 
>>> instead wanted to use EPB (our local ISP) fiber to just give them an IP on 
>>> the internet and we could just "open our firewall" to let them in.
>>> 
>>> Needless to say, our lights are strictly for lighting.
>>> 
>>> Christopher Howard
>>> Senior Network Engineer
>>> University of Tennessee at Chattanooga
>>> 
>>> Helping Students Achieve Excellence through Technology
>>> 
>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> 423-425-1773
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: <Watters>, John <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
>>> <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 12:53 PM
>>> To: "[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>" 
>>> <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] FW: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor APs
>>> 
>>>  
>>> I do have a number of Cisco 1142 APs that I could play with.
>>>  
>>> I don't even see how any AP can be mounted in the glass globe. Surely they 
>>> are not just set inside leaning against the inside of the globe.
>>>  
>>> Does anyone use exterior lighting by GlobalGreenLighting with wireless APs 
>>> in each device?
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> -jcw                                                                        
>>>                   <image002.jpg>
>>>                                                                             
>>>                          
>>> John Watters                           The University of Alabama
>>>                                                 Office of Information 
>>> Technology
>>>                                                 205-348-3992
>>>  
>>> From: Philippe Hanset [mailto:[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>] 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 11:43 AM
>>> To: Watters, John
>>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor APs
>>>  
>>> John,
>>>  
>>> When I was at UTK we installed  APs outdoor in PVC electrical boxes in the 
>>> sun and they “survived”
>>> the elements for at least 4 years. We felt comfortable doing this because 
>>> we used recycled APs or “cheap APs” that would have
>>> not wasted State funds had it failed miserably. At least request from the 
>>> assistant CIO to stress test a unit before going in production.
>>>  
>>> Don’t you have older 802.11n Cisco APs that you could use for a sample 
>>> configuration?
>>>  
>>> Philippe
>>>  
>>> Philippe Hanset
>>> www.anyroam.net <http://www.anyroam.net/>
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> On May 12, 2015, at 12:29 PM, Lee H Badman <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> I guess that would be my first concern- why mixing systems? Are the Ruckus 
>>> just supposed to be workgroup bridges in this case or actual client serving 
>>> APs? I'm guessing anything could be cobbed together, but this sounds wonky. 
>>> Also, heat has to be a concern in the light globe, no?
>>>  
>>> Lee H. Badman
>>> Network Architect/Wireless TME
>>> ITS, Syracuse University
>>> 315.443.3003
>>> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
>>> <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Watters, John 
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 12:23 PM
>>> To: [email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor APs
>>>  
>>> No. We are a Cisco shop.
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> -jcw                                                                        
>>>                   <image004.jpg>
>>>                                                                             
>>>                          
>>> John Watters                           The University of Alabama
>>>                                                 Office of Information 
>>> Technology
>>>                                                 205-348-3992
>>>  
>>> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
>>> [mailto:[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 11:16 AM
>>> To: [email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor APs
>>>  
>>> ​Are you already a Ruckus shop?
>>>  
>>> Lee H. Badman
>>> Network Architect/Wireless TME
>>> ITS, Syracuse University
>>> 315.443.3003
>>>  
>>> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
>>> <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Watters, John 
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 11:54 AM
>>> To: [email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor APs
>>>  
>>>     
>>> Our facilities folks are installing new outdoor LED lighting. They want us 
>>> to install APs inside of the light fixtures (not the poles, but inside of 
>>> the glass light globe). The AP they want us to use is a Ruckus ZoneFlex 
>>> T300 series device. 
>>> (See:http://www.ruckuswireless.com/products/zoneflex-outdoor/zoneflex-t300-series
>>>  
>>> <http://www.ruckuswireless.com/products/zoneflex-outdoor/zoneflex-t300-series>
>>>  )
>>>  
>>> Does anyone have any experience (good or bad) with this equipment installed 
>>> inside of exterior light fixtures? I need someone to talk to.
>>>  
>>> Does anyone have any outside deployments that put the APs inside of the 
>>> light fixtures using any brand of equipment?
>>>  
>>> Thanks.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> -jcw                                                                        
>>>                   <image003.jpg>
>>>                                                                             
>>>                          
>>> John Watters                           The University of Alabama
>>>                                                 Office of Information 
>>> Technology
>>>                                                 205-348-3992
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