And now I am confused too. My impression from my Asst CIO was that the wireless
was to server clients. But the literature talks about WiFi control of the
lights. Maybe my Asst CIO heard what he wanted to hear.
I have a request in to the company for a call back. Will let the list know what
I find out.
I am aware of the Cisco offerings. The major objection seems to be the
aesthetics.
Thanks for the help and interest in this project.
-jcw
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John Watters The University of Alabama
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] FW: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor APs
The documentation from the website mentions SENSUS USA, FCC-Licensed spectrum
At the same time, John Watters is being asked to investigate Ruckus APs
Zoneflex T300 (mentioned in his original email) to be installed in LED lights.
In a second email from John the brand GlobalGreenLightning is being mentioned.
So the sentence “industry leading wireless control system” made me mix Ruckus
and SENSUS USA.
But now I’m curious… is the whole lightning system wirelessly controlled by
SENSUS USA and in addition
there is room to add Wi-Fi? (Does it have to be Ruckus?)
Chris Howard, since you are in Chattanooga and so is GGL (and I’m at least 100
miles away from you in Knoxville),
could you tell us more?
Sorry about this mess,
Philippe
Philippe Hanset
www.eduroam.us<http://www.eduroam.us>
On May 12, 2015, at 2:42 PM, Jason Watts
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On May 12, 2015, at 2:26 PM, Philippe Hanset
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
John,
It looks like if your University selected GlobalGreenLightning
you really don't have a choice as to which AP vendor you can use.
http://www.globalgreenlighting.com/technology
"To do this, we have merged cutting-edge, low-energy lighting with an
industry-leading wireless control system”
So the Ruckus AP is actually a requirement.
Am I reading this wrong?
Philippe,
Where on the page you linked is Ruckus even mentioned? I read that page as
talking about the lighting control system which it says runs on a licensed band
using technology licensed from Sensus. Probably some lower frequency non-wifi
stuff. I don’t see Ruckus mentioned on that page unless I’m missing something.
Jason Watts | Senior Network Administrator
PRATT INSTITUTE
Philippe
Philippe Hanset
www.eduroam.us<http://www.eduroam.us/>
On May 12, 2015, at 1:54 PM, Howard, Christopher
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
They are based out of Chattanooga so of course we have had discussions with
them. We decided against APs in lights for a number of reasons.
1. We are an Aruba shop. We want a seamless roaming experience for our users
and feel that multiple vendor networks would hinder that. We also have 1
wireless admin for the entire campus and don't have the manpower to manage a
separate wireless network.
2. They wanted to put security cameras on the lights as well. Since we use
separate vlans for cameras and APs, we would need a switch. However, the only
switch they would put in the light was unmanageable.
3. They didn't want to run cable from the lights back to our network and
instead wanted to use EPB (our local ISP) fiber to just give them an IP on the
internet and we could just "open our firewall" to let them in.
Needless to say, our lights are strictly for lighting.
Christopher Howard
Senior Network Engineer
University of Tennessee at Chattanooga
Helping Students Achieve Excellence through Technology
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
423-425-1773
From: <Watters>, John <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
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Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 12:53 PM
To:
"[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>"
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] FW: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor APs
I do have a number of Cisco 1142 APs that I could play with.
I don't even see how any AP can be mounted in the glass globe. Surely they are
not just set inside leaning against the inside of the globe.
Does anyone use exterior lighting by GlobalGreenLighting with wireless APs in
each device?
-jcw
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John Watters The University of Alabama
Office of Information Technology
205-348-3992
From: Philippe Hanset [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 11:43 AM
To: Watters, John
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor APs
John,
When I was at UTK we installed APs outdoor in PVC electrical boxes in the sun
and they “survived”
the elements for at least 4 years. We felt comfortable doing this because we
used recycled APs or “cheap APs” that would have
not wasted State funds had it failed miserably. At least request from the
assistant CIO to stress test a unit before going in production.
Don’t you have older 802.11n Cisco APs that you could use for a sample
configuration?
Philippe
Philippe Hanset
www.anyroam.net<http://www.anyroam.net/>
On May 12, 2015, at 12:29 PM, Lee H Badman
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I guess that would be my first concern- why mixing systems? Are the Ruckus just
supposed to be workgroup bridges in this case or actual client serving APs? I'm
guessing anything could be cobbed together, but this sounds wonky. Also, heat
has to be a concern in the light globe, no?
Lee H. Badman
Network Architect/Wireless TME
ITS, Syracuse University
315.443.3003
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Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 12:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor APs
No. We are a Cisco shop.
-jcw
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John Watters The University of Alabama
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Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 11:16 AM
To:
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor APs
Are you already a Ruckus shop?
Lee H. Badman
Network Architect/Wireless TME
ITS, Syracuse University
315.443.3003
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Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 11:54 AM
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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor APs
Our facilities folks are installing new outdoor LED lighting. They want us to
install APs inside of the light fixtures (not the poles, but inside of the
glass light globe). The AP they want us to use is a Ruckus ZoneFlex T300 series
device.
(See:http://www.ruckuswireless.com/products/zoneflex-outdoor/zoneflex-t300-series
)
Does anyone have any experience (good or bad) with this equipment installed
inside of exterior light fixtures? I need someone to talk to.
Does anyone have any outside deployments that put the APs inside of the light
fixtures using any brand of equipment?
Thanks.
-jcw
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