This is a great thread. We had a conversation about this at EDUCAUSE National this year. One of the participants was having much success after a long bout of failures with Boingo. Apparently things were actually starting to happen with their DAS. This thread suggests otherwise.
Anyone have more news on Boingo DAS? http://www.boingo.com/business-services/neutral-host-das/ - Pete Hoffswell - Network Manager [email protected] http://www.davenport.edu On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Smith, Todd <[email protected]> wrote: > I am not familiar with MobileAccess VE but searching Cisco’s website seems > to suggest that it is the Corning One solution which I have looked at. The > Corning One solution is a Passive Optical Network (PON) which has a headend > box and each fiber pair runs throughout the facility until it reaches a > beam-splitter which can be up to a 32 way split from a single pair. > > > > The individual split fibers run to “pods” which can house cellular > equipment, Wi-Fi or even copper Ethernet drops. The problem that I ran > into was that it had very low port density and if I wanted PoE than I still > had to install equipment at my IDF and run a hybrid coax-fiber cable to > support 2-8 ports per pod. > > > > The fact that it was as expensive as a DAS that AT&T wasn’t going to > support pretty much killed it here. > > > > Todd > > > > *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Curtis K. Larsen > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2015 13:26 > > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Small Cell Solution > > > > My understanding is that the carrier still supports the Cisco small cell > solution. In fact, only a carrier can purchase the modules, and right now > only they decide if, when, and where to install the modules, and they > control them. All of that is fine by me, but it's just taking a long time > to bring carriers on, and even when it does it's one carrier per module. > > Has anyone had any success with the MobileAccess VE (Cisco Partner) > solution? It was similar to the small cell module in that you could use > the existing CAT5e/6 cable to the AP, but I think it would allow for more > carriers, and maybe more control of when and where to put the VE "Access > Pods". > > > Thanks, > > Curtis > ------------------------------ > > *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [ > [email protected]] on behalf of Smith, Todd [ > [email protected]] > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2015 11:15 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Small Cell Solution > > I have used Wilson gear before and it really doesn’t work well here since > there is little outdoor signal to amplify. Wi-Fi calling might be the > future but it still requires a voice-grade Wi-Fi network to work well and > it requires handset support for it. Both of those are issues not easily > corrected. > > > > A small cell solution from someone, like Alcatel-Lucent or Cisco would > provide 3G/4G signal wherever you need it without carrier support. > > > > Todd > > > > *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [ > mailto:[email protected] > <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Dexter Caldwell > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2015 12:29 > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Small Cell Solution > > > > We’re just doing local building cellular boosters. Relatively inexpensive > ( > http://www.amazon.com/Wilson-Electronics-Indoor-Cellular-Booster/dp/B00IWW9AB8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1418307096&sr=8-1&keywords=wilson+cell+phone+booster > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.amazon.com_Wilson-2DElectronics-2DIndoor-2DCellular-2DBooster_dp_B00IWW9AB8_ref-3Dsr-5F1-5F1-3Fie-3DUTF8-26qid-3D1418307096-26sr-3D8-2D1-26keywords-3Dwilson-26-2343-3Bcell-26-2343-3Bphone-26-2343-3Bbooster&d=CQMGaQ&c=2GaipCMI-4CXTl0y2l8grQS3faC7QKiDQZYpyUtD00M&r=uvxIRDMxwssmr2VjVNRe6I_MeNT0SmtowN9dpqcMAFc&m=EPF-YAhim5n5-chDVVV1qz-GQ7Pq9F1nEmHBSVqL9u8&s=FZXzh1VkIUske4X6pg_w03-9Bkfdg4V0cVwUftBe710&e=> > ) and we do them on an as-needed basis usually by targeting high complaint > buildings or areas. Some have a limit on the type of carrier, but you can > hit the most popular carrier in use and the complaints go away. It’s been > working well for us for the last year or two. > > > > Also, companies like Republic Wireless are changing the game in cellular > phones. They only use cellular as a backup to wifi and the call can roam > seamlessly back and forth. They’re a niche player, but I’ve used them > personally and its’ been great as an IT person to have cell coverage in the > dungeons of our campus networks where to cellular coverage ever reached and > my staff would have to come upstairs or outside just to use their phones. > T-Mobile has been doing some of this as well. I know we don’t select > people’s carriers, but the point is that the technology is changing in ways > that make a large DAS rollout or expensive mass deployment really > unnecessary. > > > ------------------------------ > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this > message may > be privileged and confidential. 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