Well, we went to eduroam as our primary last fall.  There are many clients that 
don't support advanced EAP types, so we removed our duplicative EAP-tls SSID 
leaving 3 major SSIDs.  Eduroam, UNC-psk and our onboarding SSID.

Ryan Turner
Senior Network Engineer, ITS
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
+1 919 274 7926 Mobile
+1 919 445 0113 Office

On Apr 7, 2016, at 10:52 AM, Jeffrey D. Sessler 
<j...@scrippscollege.edu<mailto:j...@scrippscollege.edu>> wrote:

On the eduroam question, our consortium think at this point is to abandon our 
“branded” SSID in favor of eduroam. I’ve yet to find a compelling technical 
reason to continue support of a branded SSID in addition to eduroam, so it sort 
of forces the need to continue support of both 2.4 and 5 – and it keeps eduroam 
from becoming a red-headed-step-child to the branded SSID.

Jeff

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<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> 
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Date: Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 7:36 AM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Turning off 2.4 on a select SSID?

My ears have been burning…

I understand Hector's comment about the spirit of eduroam, but like Ryan I have 
also be tempted in the past to only support 5 GHz in certain areas
because 2.4 GHz was becoming too much of a pain (e.g. Dormitories).  The 
eduroam Compliance Statement requires 802.11, no frequency mentioned.

eduroam users with 2.4GHz devices will just not see the available SSID if a 
school decides to only offer it at 5 GHz in certain locations.
In a sense it is no different than schools only offering eduroam in certain 
locations.

Now, if the entire eduroam SSID for all locations at the school is on 5 GHz, it 
might be challenging.

But how many clients REALLY can’t support 5 GHz?
The stats showing 2.4 GHz VS 5 GHz usage can be deceiving. Is it a client with 
both radios and a poor selection of spectrum,
or is it really 2.4 Ghz only capable devices? It seems that the best way to 
know if 5 GHz only is fine for your community is to “just do it”.

I checked cheap laptops at BestBuy and under specifications you find 
“Wireless-AC” or “Wireless-B, G, N". No reference to the type of radio.
Those darn marketing people, they will get you every time.

Philippe

Philippe Hanset
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On Apr 7, 2016, at 10:04 AM, Turner, Ryan H 
<rhtur...@email.unc.edu<mailto:rhtur...@email.unc.edu>> wrote:

I don't think so.  I think anytime a university enforces a uniform policy that 
applies to all folks, it shouldn't be an issue.  Of course, we are a long way 
from actually doing this.  We'll involve Phillipe if we move forward.

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On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 7:01 AM -0700, "Hector J Rios" 
<hr...@lsu.edu<mailto:hr...@lsu.edu>> wrote:

I would go back to Jason's comment and reference eduroam's policy. I personally 
think that only allowing 5GHz on eduroam goes against the spirit the global 
availability of eduroam. My 2 cents.

Hector Rios
Louisiana State University

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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Turning off 2.4 on a select SSID?

On Thu, Apr 07, 2016 at 01:27:04PM +0000, Joseph M. Karam wrote:
> We offer 2.4 and 5 GHz service.  When we have conflicts, we work with
> departments to give them a channel in the 2.4 GHz space, then we take
> that channel out of our central infrastructure.
> So, for example we gave engineering channel 6 for all of their labs,
> and we took that out of our central infrastructure.  So far it has
> worked well and we can play together nicely

What do you do after you've given the last remaining free 2.4Ghz channel to the 
third department that requests one and you've got none left for yourselves?

And presumably Engineering have lots of CCI because all of their APs are on the 
same frequency?

Not critcising, just trying to understand! :)

Matthew


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