I don’t want to put words in John’s mouth, but operating controllers requires time and effort beyond what’s required to manage configurations. Scaling, security, software upgrades, etc., all require resources but contribute nothing to the user experience. For us the benefits of hosting our own controllers is worth it, but I understand that isn’t true for everybody. I’m not even sure it will always be true for us. When the benefits of controllers as traffic aggregators can be easily replaced with SD fabrics, I’ll probably want cloud controllers too. The details will matter, but it’s where I think we’re going.
Chuck Enfield Manager, Wireless Engineering Enterprise Networking & Communication Services The Pennsylvania State University 119L, USB2, UP, PA 16802 ph: 814.863.8715 fx: 814.865.3988 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Peter P Morrissey Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2018 4:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Options Same here. I was also curious as to why it would be limited to cloud based solutions. I would drill down a layer into the perceived benefits of cloud based, and define it that way. Easier management requiring less staff time and thus lower TCO and more ability to accomplish other activities? Etc. Maybe. One of the disadvantages of cloud based solutions besides losing some control and visibility is the ongoing costs. We love Meraki as much as anyone, but the annual recurring licensing costs are rather steep and should be carefully weighed against the benefits. Pete Morrissey From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jake Snyder Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2018 2:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Options I’m curious about the requirement that controllers be “cloud based” and what business requirement that maps to. Trying to understand what a cloud based controller give your business that an on-premises controller does not. How that translates to better experience, happier students or faster connectivity. Sent from my iPhone On May 17, 2018, at 12:13 PM, Norton, Thomas (Network Operations) <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I highly recommend looking at Aruba as well. T.J. Norton Wireless Network Architect Network Operations Office: (434) 592-6552 [Image removed by sender. http://www.liberty.edu/media/1616/40themail/wordmark-for-email.jpg] Liberty University | Training Champions for Christ since 1971 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Trenton Hurt Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2018 2:11 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Options https://www.mist.com/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mist.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Ctnorton7%40liberty.edu%7Cc75bdb0477514218a00c08d5bc21c019%7Cbaf8218eb3024465a9934a39c97251b2%7C0%7C0%7C636621775498942781&sdata=LxLmDpwl3h17su4HEiv9evWnHBODxMCN0tmzXxYir0w%3D&reserved=0> On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 2:10 PM John Rodkey <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Our college - about 40 buildings, 1200 students, 3500 wireless clients per day, currently 310 WAPs - is considering a major upgrade in WAPs, replacing a number that are 9 years old and no longer supported. We could replace with the latest model of our existing vendor, but want to consider all the feasible alternatives. We have a hard requirement that the controller be cloud-based, the system deal well with Mac clients, understand VLANs and an enterprise quality network, and have a rich set of configuration, logging, monitoring, and troubleshooting tools for dealing both with clients and access points. Responsive support is also required, and unsurprisingly total system cost is a significant issue. 3 vendors come to mind: Meraki, Ubiquiti, and Aerohive. Questions: 1) do other vendors come to mind that play well in this space? 2) what are your positive experiences with any of the above? 3) what are your negative experiences? 4) have you recently gone through this analysis, and if so, what were your conclusions? 5) what issues have you experienced with PoE capacity requirements with these devices? 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