Hunter,

You are correct.
I was comparing 802.1X without a Web portal (A  la eduroam) to a Web based SSID 
with a portal and a timeout.
(which is what I have seen in buses with Wi-Fi very often)
Many OSes will not switch your Internet routing in your phone to Wi-Fi unless 
access to the Internet is detected. 
The unfortunate Splash page, in this case, could be the saving grace to 
unwanted “join” while the bus is moving along.

I guess for this particular case, it might be a “good” idea to have a splash 
page for eduroam :(

Wi-Fi doesn’t seem to be a good idea for this kind of Mobile Connectivity in a 
urban area  (it seems fine for a  highway, or a rural area)

There was another famous story like that with a Campus in London located right 
above the subway… and believe it or not, the campus AP next to the subway
would seen tons of authentications every time a train was stopping, depleting 
DHCP leases on the guest network. Same problem, different moving targets :) 

Philippe

Philippe Hanset, CEO
www.anyroam.net
www.eduroam.us
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> On Aug 17, 2018, at 5:21 PM, Hunter Fuller <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 2:45 PM Philippe Hanset 
> <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> I wouldn't use 802.1X for that project, and that is coming from the eduroam 
> guys :(
> 
> if using 802.1X (eduroam or local) in the bus… even people with decent data 
> plans that could use their own will automatically join your hotspot since 
> Wi-Fi is usually preferred by devices, making it
> not so usable for the people who really need it. Those people will have to 
> manually disable Wi-Fi to force their device on LTE.
> 
> Philippe - I'm not sure about the association between 802.1X and this 
> problem. Seems to me like any popular SSID would have the same issue, no? If 
> it is a bus full of students, they would all automatically associate, 802.1X 
> or not, right? 
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