We use Cisco 829’s for vehicles here, mainly squad cars, and have just been 
asked to add wifi hotspots to some shuttle busses.  My plan is to use the same 
Cisco 829’s for that as well.  For our currently deployed 829’s we use cellular 
unlimited data plans from ATT and Verizon.  The units connect back to campus 
via a FlexVPN config on the routers to two ASR1000’s acting as redundant hubs.  
We use BGP within the FlexVPN to exchange routes on the 829’s and the campus.  
Depending on the particular setup we either tunnel all traffic back do campus 
or only tunnel campus bound traffic.  We do this by setting up different BGP 
dynamic listen ranges with different peer-group configurations to determine 
what routes we send to the particular 829.

We use the built in AP on the 829.  While it is only 802.11n AP I doubt you 
will find a cellular carrier who can transmit/receive at the full rate of 
802.11n for it to matter, if you do let me know what carrier that is :)

We have the AP’s in autonomous mode vs capwap back to the controller.  While it 
has been considered to run them via capwap we currently are not just to be 
consistent as we also use the 829 wifi radios for wifi backhaul as a work group 
bridge (WGB) and just wanted to maintain consistency with the mode the AP is in 
on the 829’s.  Plus there is no additional capwap overhead to worry about.  You 
still have the ability on the autonomous config to point to a RADIUS server for 
authentication so you can still utilize eduroam for 802.1x.

We have been able to use these same 829’s on some camera trailers as well where 
they are constantly transmitting video over cellular and haven’t had any issues 
with the unlimited data plans.  Each carrier is different how they handle 
unlimited plans.  For instance some may throttle after a certain amount on the 
entire network while others based on tower.  With something mobile like a bus 
its probably going to not be a issue of being throttled if its a carrier by 
tower since your constantly moving.  Some, such as ATT have told me they only 
throttle you if the tower is congested and you are above a certain mostly 
bandwidth usage.

Happy to talk more with you about what we have done.

Nick Ciesinski

On Aug 16, 2018, at 9:08 AM, Watson,Nancy A 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


We have eduroam on our Cisco Campus Controllers working well.  I need to 
transition from campus to a bus and have that be a good experience over 4G.  I 
am looking for someone that has done eduroam on buses and how they approached 
that.


I am testing mobile routers on the bus, included in the test are pepwave, 
cradlepoint and cisco 829.  I am using a Cisco AP with the non-Cisco vendor to 
build a capwap tunnel back to campus over 4G.  On the Cisco 829 I am using an 
embedded ap with capwap tunnel.  I also have a dmvpn 829 setup with embedded ap.


There may be another solution that I am missing.


Thank you for your response.

Nancy


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 Engineer, Network Services - UFIT
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Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 9:24 AM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam ssid on RTS

Hi Nancy,

To be exact, what kind of info do you want? How to setup eduroam? How to setup 
wifi on buses?

Yahya Jaber.
Sr. Wireless Engineer
IT Network & Communications – Engineering
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
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Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 15:10
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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam ssid on RTS


​I am involved in a joint project with RTS to run eduroam on  the city buses 
that pass through our campus to service the students.  We are currently a Cisco 
Shop and I was curious if anyone has done anything like this with Cisco or any 
other vendor.


Thanks,
Nancy
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