Makes perfect sense, thanks for clarifying! On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 10:43 AM Philippe Hanset < [email protected]> wrote:
> Hunter, > > You are correct. > I was comparing 802.1X without a Web portal (A la eduroam) to a Web based > SSID with a portal and a timeout. > (which is what I have seen in buses with Wi-Fi very often) > Many OSes will not switch your Internet routing in your phone to Wi-Fi > unless access to the Internet is detected. > The unfortunate Splash page, in this case, could be the saving grace to > unwanted “join” while the bus is moving along. > > I guess for this particular case, it might be a “good” idea to have a > splash page for eduroam :( > > Wi-Fi doesn’t seem to be a good idea for this kind of Mobile Connectivity > in a urban area (it seems fine for a highway, or a rural area) > > There was another famous story like that with a Campus in London located > right above the subway… and believe it or not, the campus AP next to the > subway > would seen tons of authentications every time a train was stopping, > depleting DHCP leases on the guest network. Same problem, different moving > targets :) > > Philippe > > Philippe Hanset, CEO > www.anyroam.net > www.eduroam.us > +1 (865) 236-0770 <(865)%20236-0770> > > GPG key id: 0xF2636F9C > > On Aug 17, 2018, at 5:21 PM, Hunter Fuller <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 2:45 PM Philippe Hanset < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> I wouldn't use 802.1X for that project, and that is coming from the >> eduroam guys :( >> >> if using 802.1X (eduroam or local) in the bus… even people with decent >> data plans that could use their own will automatically join your hotspot >> since Wi-Fi is usually preferred by devices, making it >> not so usable for the people who really need it. Those people will have >> to manually disable Wi-Fi to force their device on LTE. >> > > Philippe - I'm not sure about the association between 802.1X and this > problem. Seems to me like any popular SSID would have the same issue, no? > If it is a bus full of students, they would all automatically associate, > 802.1X or not, right? > -- > > -- > Hunter Fuller > Network Engineer > VBH Annex B-5 > +1 256 824 5331 <(256)%20824-5331> > > Office of Information Technology > The University of Alabama in Huntsville > Systems and Infrastructure > > ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/discuss. > > ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/discuss. > > -- -- Hunter Fuller Network Engineer VBH Annex B-5 +1 256 824 5331 Office of Information Technology The University of Alabama in Huntsville Systems and Infrastructure ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.
