All, Thank you for the great feedback in this thread. This has been a great discussion very helpful for us.
For those of you who have mentioned going with the hotel model model APs. Can you explain or show what the physical installation ends up looking like? We are considering this approach. We are an Aruba shop. Thank you, Dan On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 1:33 PM Michael Cole <[email protected]> wrote: > We’re in the middle of rewiring our entire campus and building out > new data closets, upgrading fiber and switching. In our ResHalls we moved > to an hotel model type wireless access point, one per room that has a > couple of wired connections on the bottom of it to plug devices into. In > rewiring we’ve pulled to new cables into each room for the wireless. We’ve > been through an AP upgrade in some of the buildings already and it’s > working out well. We started out with the Aruba 103h, and a few years ago > moved up to the 205H, and I suspect in a couple of more years we’ll move to > the 3xx series. It’s been a nice solution for us between providing wired > and wireless at a reasonable cost, and has been rock solid > performance/maintenance wise. > > > > > > *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv < > [email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Brian Helman > *Sent:* Friday, August 31, 2018 11:54 AM > > > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Only in Student Housing? > > > > We don’t support gaming on the wireless network. It’s just too much of a > headache right now .. between .1x, 11n in some res halls, 11ac in others, > 2.4GHz/5GHz, latency/disconnects/interference/signal strength/etc, > multi-vendor, yada yada. If we get to a point where we are single-vendor > with solid 5GHz coverage everywhere, we’ll reconsider. It’s tough to have > the same student have different experiences with WiFi year to year as they > move to different res halls. > > > > -Brian > > > > *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv < > [email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Enfield, Chuck > *Sent:* Monday, August 27, 2018 9:38 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Only in Student Housing? > > > > Thanks Jacob. That’s exactly the kind of info I was hoping for. > > > > *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv < > [email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Barros, Jacob > *Sent:* Monday, August 27, 2018 8:37 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Only in Student Housing? > > > > We are still providing wired connections as desired. I believe 8% is our > trend through the years but my impression from the first two weeks of > school is that number is climbing. Physical connections are free and we > offer an ethernet cable for free as well. The beginning of our on ground > undergrad semester is busy with connections, but very little maintenance > afterward. Gamers consider it a value and it costs us very little. We've > built two new dorms in the last five years and did pull cables to rooms in > anticipation of having a full hospitality to room deployment in the > future. > > > > > *Jacob Barros* > > *Associate Director of IT, Network and Operations* > > *Email:** [email protected] <[email protected]> * > > *Phone:** 574.372.5100 ext. 6178 <(574)%20372-5100>* > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 2:51 PM, Enfield, Chuck <[email protected]> wrote: > > I don’t want to hijack Dan’s thread, but I wouldn’t mind adding to it if > he doesn’t mind. > > > > I know from previous threads that lots of schools have gone Wi-Fi-only, > and issues are minimal. But, as an institution that has both wired and > wireless enabled throughout the residence halls, about 15% of our residents > still plug in. It was easy for us to do both because we were really late > to provide Wi-Fi, so our legacy wired network is still serviceable. At > some point in the next couple years we’ll have to decide whether or not to > replace it. That requires an assessment of the value proposition. 15% use > seems to suggest that there’s still significant value in providing wired > connectivity, but I’m not sure it satisfactorily answers the question. > It’s safe to assume that some users really want that wired connection for > good reasons, and other users who prefer a wired connection if it’s > available, but really wouldn’t miss it if it wasn’t. It’s to determine how > many each make up that 15%. > > > > I’m curious to hear from institutions that provide wired connections upon > request. If you do that, how many get requested? Is it free, or is there > a charge? If a charge, how much? …and anything else illuminating you can > no-doubt contribute. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Chuck > > > > > > *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv < > [email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Entwistle, Bruce > *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 2:16 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Only in Student Housing? > > > > Last year we converted our first residence hall to wireless only and there > were minimal challenges. You could consider installing the small > hospitality APs in the rooms and then there would be wired ports available > if necessary. > > > > Bruce Entwistle > > Network Manager > > University of Redlands > > > > > > *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv < > [email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Daniel Wurst > *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 11:12 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Only in Student Housing? > > > > Hi All, > > > > We are looking into building a new student housing building and are > considering going Wifi only for network connectivity. We were wondering if > anyone else has gone the route of only allowing network connectivity via > wireless. 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