Consider that we also sell millions worth of Wi-Fi ourselves, so you are not
addressing someone ignorant of those pieces of the equation. Consider that
we were also key players in nearly every wireless standard to date, so I
know something and we agree about the power of standards. Consider that I
was desinging and literally building fiber optic MANs 15 years ago, so I
know something about the power of fiber as well AND about its complimentary
nature.

I don't require you to agree with me, but you should know that all these
things you say you cannot do or that we cannot do, are, in fact, being done
in every corner of the globe and of this country and we are at the low,
front end of the adoption curve. For every thing you say cannot be done
successfully, I can likely find dozens of actual examples to demonstrate the
opposite. Do you really want to know what the largest single market
license-exempt wireless broadband deployment in the world is? I'll give you
a hint, they have over 23,000 installed fixed last subscribers to date and
they trialed Wi-Fi extensively for 6 months before opting for something
else. SpeedNet in Tokyo. How about the same question but limit it to the US
and Canada? They trialed Wi-Fi before choosing something else. Now they have
about 4,000 subscribers in a single market (Amarillo). Both are growing
rapidly. Both compete head on with DSL. In fact, SpeedNet faces DSL
competition selling for $19 a month.

So Wi-Fi is awesome for the last 100, maybe eevn 500 feet, but until or
unless it drammatically changes (add it could yet happen), it will not be a
successful last mile technology compared with those unlicensed systems
designed for the application of WMAN.

BYW, in Tokyo, fiber runs to most every pole. SpeedNet owns it and uses it
to backhaul the wireless. So much for fiber's competition. It is all
relative depending on who has what assests.

So, as I said earlier, we at least agree we disagree.

Kind regards,

Patrick J. Leary
Chief Evangelist, Alvarion, Inc.
Executive Committee Member, WCA/LEA
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Ph: 760.494.4717
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-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Boyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 5:17 PM
To: Patrick Leary; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [BAWUG] Greetings BAWUG (A BWA advocate hopes he is
welcomed )


Yes, technically wireless can do wonders.  But when, and at what price?

You are goners if you can't keep up with cable and DSL (and other
fiber providers)

Kirkland are not smalltown folks.  We've been there and done that.
You're describing an architecture of very expensive hubs that
furthermore require high skill labor, and cannot play in the race,
of high volume, high competition consumer chipsets like WiFi.

There are fibers *all over the place* on Seattle Eastside, and the
owners of the fiber could easily, today, feed many broadband connections
with something like Nokia rooftop, or anything else that supports
clusters of users.  What we need is a $100 rooftop device and
a layer of plain ol' routers to aggregaet the traffic on to all these
empty fibers.

By the time you get your high-engineering hubs built the chip
manufacturers will be selling the same power in boxes at compUSA,
that is, if its not protected by police powers (either proprietary code,
or FCC regulation, or whatnot,)

Todd
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