At the end of the day, its all S(I)NR and coding gain.  Lowering the
bitrate reduces the required S(I)NR and/or coding gain (due to
modulation), as does running in clean(er) spectrum (less 'I').

Soon someone will say "breakpoint model", and I'll start screaming.

Jim

Patrick Leary writes:
> Tim, your understanding of OFDM is way off. Extraordinarily stability is
> achieved with OFDM - far more than with our FHSS or our DSSS. We have
> examples of links having only a single packet error over several weeks. I am
> not basing these off theory, but off actual field results both beta and
> commercial deployments. Here is a link to some such tests done using our
> 3.5GHz OFDM PMP which has been shipping for 18 months and is in use in major
> carrier deployments around the world. This paper includes detailed photo
> examples of the links.
> 
> http://www.alvarion-usa.com/RunTime/Materials/KnowledgePoolFiles/alv_OFDM%20
> wp.pdf
> 
> Keep in mind, this is 3.5GHz equipment
> http://www.alvarion-usa.com/RunTime/Products_2020.asp?tNodeParam=33working
> off a very small channelization, so the max data rate is lower than our same
> products using 20MHz 5GHz channels (BreezeACCESS VL and BreezeACCESS LB).
> VL: http://www.alvarion-usa.com/RunTime/Products_2020.asp?tNodeParam=39
> LB: http://www.alvarion-usa.com/RunTime/Products_2020.asp?tNodeParam=35
> 
> Patrick
> Alvarion
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 'Tim Pozar' [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 8:43 PM
> To: Patrick Leary
> Cc: Ladjicke Diouf; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [BAWUG] 802.11b Long Range non line of sight
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 05:32:38PM -0700, Patrick Leary wrote:
> > Tim, I am not sure if you are talking about OFDM or DSSS. With OFDM, you
> > DON'T need LOS. Of course its not going to connect forever with NLOS, but
> > for a few miles, it is a no brainer. We have ample empirical data that
> > proves it.
> 
> I haven't see your report but if you are basing it on using things
> like knife-edge diffraction or even multipath as your method of
> getting from point A to point B.  I *would* be cautious about giving
> the link a high "up-time".
> 
> Looking forward to the report...
> 
> Tim
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