On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, Mike Sensney wrote: > I remember reading an article in Byte magazine many years ago. There was > this PhD type that gave a wonderfully technical explanation of the limits > of > hard drive capacity. He included all sorts of mathematical proofs and > charts. And he concluded by saying that we would not see drives much larger > > than 2 GB in size. > > Then in the same issue of Byte toward the back there was an announcement by > > the hard drive division of IBM that they had discovered a very interesting > magnetic anomaly that would allow them to increase bit density by at least > a > factor of ten. > > Obviously, it is easy to see now who was right.
The mathematicians were absolutlely correct about the physical limitations of the materials they were dealing with. what changed were the materials being used and the fashion in which the data was encoded. no-one dodged any laws of physics. > Now I see the same type of argument going on here. Jim has all of his > mathematical theory that say Patrick's claims are bunk. > > So who is right? Jim with his theory or Patrick with his empirical > evidence? empirical evidence is crap if you can't ground it in physics. we all happen to live in same universe which ought to make it realtivlity easy for independant observers to prove of disprove anyone else's claims our counter claims in a relativly straight-forward fashion. > Patrick's (Alvarian) OFDN equipment has caused quite a stir on the > Wireless ISP list. The WISPers make their living using wireless gear and > they have been looking for and wanting a NLOS solution. Alvarian's OFDN has > > been tested by WISPs and found to work as advertised in NLOS applications. > Even those who tend to prefer using non Alvarian equipment for LOS > solutions > are recommending Alvarian for NLOS applications. > > So I guess the question could be rephrased: > > Who is right? Jim with his theory or the WISPers who make their living > using > this kind of wireless equipment in real life situations? > > At 12:40 AM 7/25/2003, Jim Thompson wrote: > > > >Empirical data can only demonstrate results in the environment you > >studied. > > > >Proofs require mathematics. > > -- > general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> > [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joel Jaeggli Academic User Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PGP Key Fingerprint: 1DE9 8FCA 51FB 4195 B42A 9C32 A30D 121E -- In Dr. Johnson's famous dictionary patriotism is defined as the last resort of the scoundrel. With all due respect to an enlightened but inferior lexicographer I beg to submit that it is the first. -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary" -- general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
