Don't take this the wrong way BUT ---> if you spent less time on the Internet you would soon get those people connected.
Been there, done that. Lonnie On 8/25/05, Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just have to find someone to do installs. I have as many waiting to > be hooked up as I have hooked up. It's there for the taking, but I > can't take it! The search for help has started. > > Tom DeReggi wrote: > > > > > Most ISPs shared that plan. But it rarely works that way, when you > > want to grow your business. > > > > > > Tom DeReggi > > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > > > > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Rohrbacher" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 10:33 AM > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking on an investor? > > > > > >> I plan to be debt free in a year, so I hope to be ok. Everyone all > >> paid off and ready to roll. > >> > >> Matt Liotta wrote: > >> > >>> I wouldn't worry about it since the way you did it put the investors > >>> at risk more so than you. There is a better way to do it and before > >>> your company gets too successful you may want to visit a lawyer and > >>> get things cleaned up. > >>> > >>> -Matt > >>> > >>> Brian Rohrbacher wrote: > >>> > >>>> Just typed up something on the laptop that said, "I owe you "this" > >>>> much", and we both signed it. Not fancy, but a little better than > >>>> an oral agreement. I won't miss a payment and will pay them back > >>>> if it takes closing the WISP and working 3 jobs. Missing payments > >>>> is not an option. Only if I'm laid up in the hospital. Personal > >>>> guaranteed? Well, I told them I will pay it back... I know the > >>>> agreement leaves a lot open, but I trust these 4 people. Anyway, > >>>> so they are not investors. Lastly, lets just leave me be about > >>>> this :) I'd rather not try to defend a million questions about > >>>> what if this and what if that. It is what I did and it is done. > >>>> > >>>> Charles Wu wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> that would be a loan > >>>>> what type of collateral do they have? or what happens if you miss > >>>>> a payment? > >>>>> have you personally guaranteed the money? > >>>>> -Charles > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------------------- > >>>>> WISPNOG Park City, UT > >>>>> http://www.wispnog.com <http://www.wispnog.com/> > >>>>> August 15-17, 2005 > >>>>> > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian > >>>>> Rohrbacher > >>>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2005 10:20 PM > >>>>> *To:* WISPA General List > >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Taking on an investor? > >>>>> > >>>>> Well, I guess we would call them loans as I have all control. > >>>>> Correct me if I am wrong. They gave me money at a fixed rate. > >>>>> Loans or investments? > >>>>> > >>>>> Charles Wu wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> well...in determing their "dumbness" (assuming you're willing to > >>>>>> divulge this information) - what sort of investment / equity > >>>>>> share / control do your investors have? > >>>>>> I mean...assuming it's you and the other 4, does > >>>>>> everyone have > >>>>>> an equal share? (which is a different story all together) or > >>>>>> does 1 single person have a majority share and the other 4 are > >>>>>> minority partners > >>>>>> -Charles > >>>>>> ------------------------------------------- > >>>>>> WISPNOG Park City, UT > >>>>>> http://www.wispnog.com <http://www.wispnog.com/> > >>>>>> August 15-17, 2005 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian > >>>>>> Rohrbacher > >>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2005 8:05 PM > >>>>>> *To:* WISPA General List > >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Taking on an investor? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Well, I guess I found four "dumb" people that got me > >>>>>> started. All my start up funds came from 4 people. All > >>>>>> four were subs from a previous WISP I owned, (before my > >>>>>> partner took everything over and left me out in the cold) > >>>>>> they all said, "I want you providing service, not the "other > >>>>>> guy". So here I am. 7 months in and going strong. Oh, > >>>>>> almost forgot, like my lawyer has me say......all that is > >>>>>> just my opinion. ;-) I think "dumb" investors > >>>>>> are great! > >>>>>> Charles Wu wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> sure > >>>>>>> a passive minority equity position stake in a > >>>>>>> privately > >>>>>>> held company is worthless, as legally, the person with the > >>>>>>> majority stake can make 100% of the decisions (in terms of > >>>>>>> purchasing, spending, cash distribution, etc) > >>>>>>> think about it, if it was your money, would you > >>>>>>> be willing > >>>>>>> to just "invest it" into a company when the majority > >>>>>>> partner can do whatever he/she wants to and you have no > >>>>>>> recourse? > >>>>>>> -Charles > >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>> WISPNOG Park City, UT > >>>>>>> http://www.wispnog.com <http://www.wispnog.com/> > >>>>>>> August 15-17, 2005 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of > >>>>>>> *Dylan Oliver > >>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2005 4:10 PM > >>>>>>> *To:* WISPA General List > >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Taking on an investor? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Charles, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> would you expand on that? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 8/22/05, *Charles Wu* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> FWIW...no invester (other than friends and family) > >>>>>>> worth their salt will be > >>>>>>> willing to invest capital into the company for a > >>>>>>> minority position, as that > >>>>>>> is basically a sure way to guarantee the loss of > >>>>>>> their money > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> That said, there is a fool born every day > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -Charles > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- Dylan Oliver > >>>>>>> Primaverity, LLC > >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>>>>> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >>>>>>> Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.14/79 - Release Date: > >>>>>>> 8/22/2005 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>>>> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >>>>>> Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.14/79 - Release Date: > >>>>>> 8/22/2005 > >>>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>>> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >>>>> Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.14/79 - Release Date: > >>>>> 8/22/2005 > >>>>> > >>> > >> -- > >> WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > >> > >> -- > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >> Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.15/80 - Release Date: > >> 8/23/2005 > >> > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- Lonnie Nunweiler Valemount Networks Corporation http://www.star-os.com/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
