Plus the piggy or cable and connectors.

George

G.Villarini wrote:
$100 for a 900 antenna? Yikes man were are buying?  I buy 11 db yagis for
around $40 , 15 db for $60 and 17db for $80

Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
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Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 6:22 PM
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Subject: Re: WAS [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

we're talking 900 mhz, right? I don't use Moto 2.4 or 900 mhz stuff. never tried 2.4 and the 900 mhz didn't work for me - but it was a press. some 15 miles with NLOS so.. it could have been a path too challanging even for 900 mhz.

$295 for a 900 mhz radios is very good. You still have to add $100 for a 900 mhz antenna. I've stayed away from 900 mhz mostly because of the learning curve and additional spectrum/antenna considerations. They are much bigger of course than 5.7 or 5.7 antennas/reflectors for the same gain, but that's obvious.

Still $260 for 5.7 ghz radio with spectrum analyzer built-in, audio tone alignment, weights a few ounces, goes a few megabits / second, supports vlan tagging, dhcp / nat / shoulder-spectrums / has snmp / is supported by a network mass-firmware upgrade program (yes, its really crap, but at least its *there*). I could easily do remote upgrades of 30 units at a time without headache to move to new featured firmware - live, online, no crap-outs...

Like I said, it isn't for everyone, that's for sure. It just was for me.

Brian Rohrbacher wrote:


I've never done business with them either, but their 100 pack prices is 295 each for connectorized. Cheaper then some "roll your own".

A. Huppenthal wrote:


I'm not a supplier, nor do I want to be one to the list, nor do I want to research on behalf of the list.

google:
motorola canopy SM bulk 100 pack.

I picked the first couple of hits that showed prices.. That's it.

I don't do business with Double Radius, so I wouldn't know.

Brian Rohrbacher wrote:


432631          Bulk Pack 50  900 MHz Subscriber Modules        BP9000SM-50


$26,250


Double Radius has 25 pack for  : $8,500.00  double to 50 pack and it 17k

Will you please tell me who the Canopy major supplier is so I can avoid at all costs.

The 100 pack is THIRTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS cheaper at double radius. HOLY CRAP!

Unless I am reading something wrong.......

http://www.doubleradius.com/s.nl/sc.2/category.81/.f



A. Huppenthal wrote:


I think WISPA has expressed its disinterest in a 'buying club'. However, if members on this list want to organize a 'buying club' - I'm all for it. Its clearly one of the reasons you will get your ass kicked by the telco and cable company - they have buying power and can get what you want and buy in 10s and 20s for 1/2 the price.

Next to FCC, my biggest concern is that my *COSTS* are higher than Telco and Cable. Aside from the totally defunct Anti-trust activity of our government, *COSTS* are going to kill WISPs off. Hardware is a part of that overall model. The rest of the costs are contained in my business.. and I'm happy to talk about that with other WISPs at the *first* WISPA meeting. In fact, I'd likely talk about it at ISPCON as well. (would be my third talk there). Our industry really needs to pull together to achieve higher efficiencies (how to run a WISP), better pricing (buying power), improved governmental rules (FCC and others through a louder voice).


I don't specifically reccomend any of this equipment. Get some and figure out if it works for you on your own dime. :-)

Want a relevent example: a single 900 Mhz Subscriber Unit = $725. Buy 500 and get them at $444 instead.

Here's an off-the-shelf price list from a Canopy major supplier.



432679          900 Mhz Access Point    9000AP          $1,895
427612          900 Mhz Access Point AES        9001AP  $2,395
498606 900 Mhz Access Point Connectorized (External antenna) 9000APC $1,855 487642 900 Mhz Access Point AES Connectorized (External antenna) 9001APC $2,355 432631 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-50


$26,250 452650 Bulk Pack 100 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-100 $47,500 459676 Bulk Pack 500 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-500 $222,500 460660 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized BP9000SMC-50 $24,250 467696 Bulk Pack 100 900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized BP9000SMC-100 $43,500 483635 Bulk Pack 500 900 MHz Subscriber Modules Connectorized BP9000SMC-500 $202,500 433674 900 Mhz Subscriber Module 9000SM $725 430697 900 Mhz Subscriber Module AES 9001SM $975 499667 900 Mhz Subscriber Module Connectorized (External antenna) 9000SMC $685 472614 900 Mhz Subscriber Module AES Connectorized (External antenna) 9001SMC $935
435698  900 Mhz 60 degree 9 dBi antenna         

AN900

        $100
446693  Bulk Pack 50: 900 Mhz 60 degree 9 dBi antenna   

BPAN900-50

        $4,500
413627 Bulk Pack 100: 900 Mhz 60 degree 9 dBi antenna BPAN900-100 $8,000
483655  900MHz Demo Kit - Connectorized         TK10010

$3,000

495685          900MHz Access Point Cluster Kit - Connectorized

TK10028
$30,000

Peter R. wrote:


Brian Rohrbacher wrote:


Would he give WISPA a good rate? Anyone interested could get quotes and maybe he could cut us a break? I want this trade association to get some members services so people have a reason to join. With added services comes members and money. With members and money comes "pull" at the FCC level. Then we get good stuff from the FCC and WISPs rule the world. *Right Brain* Lets do what we can to get more Principal Members.

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:


You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up eating the organization and the organization becomes caught up in being a volume club.

Regards,

Peter
4isps.com

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