Tom, How do you think 70 ghz gear will cost pennies and help us? For a 1 mile ptp link you need 4 ft dishes on each end, I cant imagine this working for us in ptp or ptmp ...
Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.767.7466 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 6:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need) Bob made a good point regarding contracts. Use the you can serve them today, to your advantage, and lock them in. Charge install fees because you can, so yoour gear is paid for by the time FIOS does come, and you are in the position to be your most competitive. My view is that it is a time stall situation. Wireless gear is evolving. Its jsut a matter of time before 70 Ghz GB gear can be had for pennies. Maybe not this year, but sooner or later it will. When FIOS is a real threat to Wireless, thats when the GB wireless manufacturers will start to lower their prices, because it is what they'll need to do to sell gear. Make sure your antenna colocation agreements on every sub's building allows for a second antenna, so when you can afford to go GB broadband, you can do so without delay from landlords. Verizon has been advertising FIOS hard in our markets to, but its been over 6 month for some, since advertsied and no FIOS. FIOS is expensive to buildout, and they need a certain number of pre-signed up subscribers to do it. Its hard to convince people to get rif of their satelite and cabled TV. There is security in not being locked down to a signle provider for ALL services. I can see it now, someone gets behind on their phone bill, and all a sudden the TV gets turned off, the broadband gets turned off, and the PHONE. IF you wait until FIOS is installed and then try to compete you won't be able to. The goal is to scoop up the clients before its available. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 5:01 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need) > > Right. Unless there's a technology upgrade soon in the 2 / 5 gig areas, > we're going to > need something else to compete... > > I have a 20 meg feed right now, and it's about 1.5 meg average... But to > no customers can > I deliver more than 10 meg to without a fortune in hardware > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 4:43 PM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: RE: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really > need) > > I can get a 100Mbps or 200Mbps feed today at very good pricing (what I > would pay for a T1 5 years ago :-)) but the problem I see it > is delivering 15+Mbps in a PtMP setup > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On Behalf Of Rick Smith >> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 4:28 PM >> To: 'WISPA General List' >> Subject: RE: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they >> really need) >> >> >> And that's why having them sealed into a contract like Bob believes in >> protects you :) >> >> Won't be long before YOU can get that feed (maybe from another ISP) as >> well and start feeding it into wireless shtuff >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 4:21 PM >> To: 'WISPA General List' >> Subject: RE: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they >> really need) >> >> I agree, most sub's use about 1Mbps to 2Mbps if they very active >> downloading content (ftp, streaming, and some p2p) (I limit p2p on my >> system but allow some >> bursts) other traffic is not limited >> >> But when trying to sell a customer will go and say hey I can get >> 15Mbps from verizon for $50 and only XX from you >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher >> > Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 4:15 PM >> > To: WISPA General List >> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they >> > really need) >> > >> > Seriously, how much does a sub use anyway? If you keep control over >> > p2p, how much are they really going to take anyway? Anyone got >> > numbers? >> > >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> > >> > >Although the service is not available yet in my area, it is getting >> > >close and reports are it could be available in 2006 - check out >> > >this pricing - the >> > 15Mbps >> > >for $49.95 a month seems like a really good deal and would be tough >> > >to beat, currently I am using Nstream/MT which gives me about >> > >20Mbps to the customer >> > > >> > >Up to 5 Mbps/2 Mbps $34.95 - $39.95 >> > >Up to 15 Mbps/2 Mbps $44.95 - $49.95 >> > >Up to 30 Mbps/5 Mbps $179.95 - $199.95 >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > -- >> > Brian Rohrbacher >> > Reliable Internet, LLC >> > www.reliableinter.net >> > Cell 269-838-8338 >> > >> > "Caught up in the Air" 1 Thess. 4:17 >> > >> > >> > -- >> > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> > >> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> > >> > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > >> > >> > -- >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.7/214 - Release Date: >> > 12/23/2005 >> > >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.7/214 - Release Date: >> 12/23/2005 >> >> >> -- >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.7/214 - Release Date: >> 12/23/2005 >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.7/214 - Release Date: >> 12/23/2005 >> >> >> -- >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.7/214 - Release Date: >> 12/23/2005 >> > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.7/214 - Release Date: 12/23/2005 > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.7/214 - Release Date: 12/23/2005 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.7/214 - Release Date: 12/23/2005 > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
