I did it to expose the problems associated with 802.11b/g which is a
technology that was NOT designed for what it is being used for today. I
think several people on the list realized what tricks can be done with
the SSID and now they are smarter because I posted it. The whole point
of the post is that you need to use a proprietary solution that was
designed for WISP usage. If you were a professional WISP you would be
using such solution and thus YOU and YOUR customers would not be subject
to someone doing this to you.
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
114 S. Walnut St.
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of George
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 11:14 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Virtual AP
Kurt
Your killing me.
This has to be the lowest underhanded thing I've heard on these list
from a fellow wisp.
The goal to win is a fine goal, but winning by cheating is not a win at
all, it's an admission of failure.
You need to understand that integrity and success go hand in hand.
Shaking my head.
George
And I only let you off lightly because your a young kid,
Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
I do that too, 3 competitors have towers all within ¼ mile of each
other, I put their ssid in my AP but turn the broadcast off, their
clients associate to me and I deny all their access so when they try
to
hook up customers it looks like their connected but they cant figure
out
why it doesnt work, keeps them from signing up clients in my area.
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
114 S. Walnut St.
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
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*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
*On Behalf Of *Rick Smith
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 27, 2005 8:12 AM
*To:* 'WISPA General List'
*Subject:* RE: [WISPA] Virtual AP
actually, I was kidding about the competitor thing, wanted to see if
it'd start a fire. It's something I'd thought of, but you can't route
based on Virtual AP SSID
Having an invididual hotspot page per virtual SSID would be cool, on a
wholesale level...
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*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
*On Behalf Of *Scott Reed
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 27, 2005 10:44 AM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* RE: [WISPA] Virtual AP
What happens when a potential customer sees the competition's name?
They
call the competitor who says, "We don't do that." Then what, do you
get
called by the competitor?
I guess my question is, how does advertising the competitor's name
help
you?
I like the wholesale idea though. I may have to pursue that in the
future.
Scott Reed
Owner
NewWays
Wireless Networking
Network Design, Installation and Administration
www.nwwnet.net <http://www.nwwnet.net/>
The season is Christmas, not X-mas, not the holiday, but Christmas,
because
Christ was born to provide salvation to all who will believe!
*---------- Original Message -----------*
From: Rick Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 10:15:08 -0500
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Virtual AP
Yep, I create virtual SSIDs for all my competitors names (they only
do
DSL) :)
I also wholesale service off one of my towers via 2.4 and 900 mhz to
a
local computer guy that likes to see his name "in the air" -
the virtual SSID thing was a natural win...
Not sure about the broadcast thing...haven't seen a performance hit
because of the virtual ssid's ...
R
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Pete Davis
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 9:57 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Virtual AP
Mikrotik APs have the capability to create a "Virtual AP" with a
secondary SSID, but I haven't found much documentation about it.
Has anyone used this feature much? I could see this being useful
during a transitional period, while you are changing the SSID, so
you can access the CPE with the "old" ssid.
I could also see this being useful for colocating two companies on
the
same tower/AP, like if you have an ISP geared toward
residential service, and another company name/marketing scheme for
business customers.
I don't know what kind of performance impact there is when you
create
a bunch of APs on one radio.
I had a wierd thought about this, however: If I have 40 clients on
an
AP, and set up 40 "virtual AP's" on the network with each
client on his own SSID, do they count as 40 PTP links, allowing me
to
kick up the antenna gain like with the CPE?
Does the virtual AP really broadcast a secondary SSID, or does it
switch between the two rapidly, kind of like a poor man's Time
Division Multiplexing.
Pete Davis
NoDial.net
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