Mark,

I have used a 6 gallon portable gas tank that is normally used with a
small outboard boat motor. You can purchase from a boat dealer and it
even included a fuel gauge in the filler cap. Works like a charm. Just
make sure that you position the can above the engine.

Should allow you to run 10-12 hours on a full tank.

- Cliff


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 11:59 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Generator --> UPS

Thanks Travis. I know that the Coleman is not 'computer-friendly' but I
haven't had a problem yet with it powering our equipment...just the
problem with the UPS. 

How'd you rig you gas can...that IS the big problem with these
smaller-wattage generators is the tank size. Got photos?
-----Original Message-----
From: Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 10:50:36 
To:WISPA General List <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Generator --> UPS

Hi,

Is your generator a "computer friendly" type? We have both a Honda and 
Yamaha 1000 generators that deliver clean power (you can plug 
electronics into them directly without problems). Those will charge the 
UPS. The other thing we did was hook up a 5 gallon gas can with fuel 
line directly to the fuel line on the generator. It was about $10 worth 
of parts (including the 5 gallon can) and the generator will now run for

24-26 hours straight on 5 gallons of gas.

Travis
Microserv

Mark Nash wrote:

> Winds in my area knocked power out early this morning (GEORGE R - 
> heard you guys had 100mph gusts on the Oregon coast...how'd it go?).
>
> I power all my WiPOPs with an APC UPS (Smart-UPS 700) and grid power.

> They keep the sites up for 2-3 hours depending on equipment load at 
> the site.  I put in a SNMP card (AP9617 - can e-mail upon many 
> different UPS events without having a SNMP server).  I get notified 
> that the site is on battery power...buys me time to get to the site 
> with a generator.
>
> My goal is to have a generator that I can plug the UPS into.  Here's 
> the scenario I want:
>
> 1: Power out. I get notified that UPS is running on batteries.  Get 
> geared up.
> 2: Hook up generator to UPS.  (here's the important part) BATTERIES 
> CHARGE ON UPS.
> 3: UPS Battery gets fully charged.  I get notified 'fully charged'.
> 4: Fuel in generator runs out.  I get notified that UPS is running on 
> batteries.
> 5: Get fuel to site within 1-2 hours & restart generator.  GOTO 3:.
>
> Site never goes down and I don't have to make unnecessary trips 
> because I think the generator might be low on fuel.  Last year we had 
> power down at a site down for 2.5 weeks.  Problem was that the site 
> was a last priority because the problem was past any homes with humans

> in them. Shuttling gas to a generator twice a day for 3 hours of 
> driving for 2.5 weeks got very very very old very very very quickly.
>
> I've got a generator now (Coleman 1850W).  Even with the power 
> sensitivity level set to low on the UPS's, it they won't run on the 
> generator.  So I think I need cleaner power.
>
> Recommendations?
>
> (power just came back up to my site...got notified by the UPS...gotta 
> go and take the equipment off the generator and plug it into the 
> UPS...customers down for 60 seconds while the Trango backhaul boots).
>
> Mark Nash
> Network Engineer
> UnwiredOnline.Net
> 350 Holly Street
> Junction City, OR 97448
> http://www.uwol.net
> 541-998-5555
> 541-998-5599 fax
>
>

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