JohnnyO wrote:
WTF!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rick Smith
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 9:27 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tech Support Call Center Interest ?


I'll give you that, but when someone responds to my query for input with
a "forget them, we do it better / cheaper and there's no reason for any
other call centers", I take offense..

Ah well, that's business, but I sure would've liked this thread to be a
little more conversational...

R


Rick Harnish wrote:
Rick,

Please take no offense to this reply.  I haven't really been following

this thread until your last one and I read it because I enjoy reading your posts.

I reviewed your first post and the thread that followed. You did ask for input in your first post.

"Any input ?"

We do live in a free market economy and if someone is already doing this cheaper than what your business plan is set for, is it totally wrong for them to point it out? Does that mean that you can't "do it better" at a higher price? As pointed out in other threads recently, cheaper is not normally better. If you are looking at a new business venture, your research should generate an awareness of what other businesses are charging and what kind of service that price includes.

If you think you can go head to head and garner a market niche of WISPs as a WISPA member, then I think you should give it a whirl. As far as I know, Ron Johnson is not a paid WISPA member. If I were to choose a company as a wireless support center, I would definitely weigh WISPA membership and experience heavily when making my decision.

Maybe I am reading Ron's post in a different light than you are but I didn't really see any strong attack on your post. He merely pointed out that he is in the business to do this and he is cheaper. That in no way means the other members of this list are going to flock to him
for a solution.
I'm sure I will draw criticism from some whichever side of the fence I

take here.  I think it is a good topic to discuss and for that reason,

I will allow the thread to continue. I personally will find it interesting to know what it takes to run a call center.

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Smith
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tech Support Call Center Interest ?

Ya know Ron, that was uncalled for.

Wow, ripped apart on-list.  Great atmosphere for getting some feedback

on a business idea.

Never again.

Hey Harnish, how about that ?   Argh.

Ron Johnson wrote:

Guys

We have been support ISPs for over 10 years. Dialup, Cable, DSL, or wireless. Yes it can get complicated. But then again it is our business to know how to get the job done.

Give me a call if we can help you with your Tech support and Customer

service calls

O BTW we price ours at a much better rate that these guys you are talking about.

Ron Johnson
President
National Support Center Inc.
800-203-7961

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash
Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 6:53 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tech Support Call Center Interest ?

Google GTC tech support. They are reasonable. Level 1 and level 2 techs allow them to get their costs down. If you have something specifically for wisps that would be more valuable.

But there is a lot involved in doing this on. As a new customer of yours, I would expect you to familiarize your techs with my way of doing things so you can be useful for my customers when they call.

My business partner owns a call center and we have looked at doing this a little without much interest in taking the plunge to do it.

GTC had a hefty startup fee (I think it was $5k) to have one of their

managers get familiar with my system and develop training for their L1 & L2 techs. Then they took the number of subscribers we had and made the base monthly fee ($1 x # of subs). That gives you (1 minute

x # of subs) of 'tech time' per month. Any overage would be about $.60 per minute for that month.

Not a bad deal. I didn't feel that the diversity of my system lent itself well to a 3rd party tech support at the time, and since then everything I have chosen to deploy has had a consideration given to 'Call Center Tech Support'. Whether we do the tech support or not, it is worth it to spend time and money to streamline tech support methods so we can hire support personnel that are further down on the

food chain.

Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 18:04:12
To:WISPA General List <[email protected]>
Subject: [WISPA] Tech Support Call Center Interest ?


I have a customer that just installed a $100k phone system and is lookin
for other uses.

Having experience in both call center mangement and tech support department creation / operations and management, I've got half a mind

to sit a couple of technical people down and start up a technical support call center and answering service, with WISPs and ISPs in mind...

I've seen outrageous prices for this service, when lookin for my own
business,
and could probably beat a lot of pricing out there just by leveraging
my
sister
company's purchase...

Any input ? How much is too much when it comes to per call / per minute
charges, etc....

Feedback would be great, and WISPA members would get discounts for using
the service...

R

WTF??, Me too?(That was a great jet ski by the way! :-P  )
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