Oh, you're only talking about using thier backhauls? I'm not trying to argue this, just understand... As I had followed the conversation up to this point, I was under the impression we were discussing the last mile connectivity, rather than your backhauls / infrastructure.
As you say, they do make some viable products for that... North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP > "Mainstream" WISPs need good backhaul to interconnect tower locations. > Whatever a WISP uses I am guessing it does not cost much different than > what I am choosing to use in the application I am using. I feel I made a > good decision. You do not I made a good choice. I think others could > benefit from choosing the path I chose. You do not. Let's leave it at that. > Scriv > > > Mark Koskenmaki wrote: > > >Mainstream = affordable residential. > > > >The vast majority of available customers for WISP's are residential, and if > >you can make a business case for using any current alvarion product to > >provide residential broadband at reasonable prices, I'd love to see it. > > > >Niche WISP's are ones that are only high end customers, or business only, > >etc. > > > > > > > > > >North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 > >personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net > >sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net > >Fast Internet, NO WIRES! > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > >- > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > >Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 10:58 PM > >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP > > > > > > > > > >>I disagree. I weighed the performance specs and price and I feel I will > >>save money with this platform. If you are saying it is more expensive > >>than other platforms then you are right but the performance boost and > >>wider coverage per cell make up for much of the higher cost.. I disagree > >>that "mainstream" WISPs cannot afford this. I know most of you guys can. > >>If you have ANY money behind you or ANY borrowing power at all then > >>Alvarion has a good option for offering access to a high performance > >>PtoMP backhaul or service to higher end clients. This is a good option. > >>With that said I am not saying it is the ONLY option but saying this is > >>out of reach of "mainstream" WISPs is not a fair statement. Check the > >>pricing and see if this can suit your needs before you assume it cannot. > >>Scriv > >> > >> > >>Mark Koskenmaki wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>It is not financially feasible for a mainstream WISP, who is attempting > >>> > >>> > >to > > > > > >>>serve all types of internet customers to rely on BA for anything but > >>>specialized application., It's just too expensive. > >>> > >>> > >>>North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 > >>>personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net > >>>sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net > >>>Fast Internet, NO WIRES! > >>> > >>> > >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > >> > >> > >- > > > > > >>>- > >>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: "Brad Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> > >>>Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 5:53 AM > >>>Subject: RE: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Mark, Come on.....The whole BreezeAccess product family was made and > >>>>continues to get upgrades for WISP's. There are well over 1,000 WISP's > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>using > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>our gear in the states alone. You won't find many of them here or on > >>>> > >>>> > >other > > > > > >>>>WISP threads but it doesn't mean they don't exist. Saying we're "niche" > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>and > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>not "mainstream" and there is some division is a real strech. Brad > >>>> > >>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > >>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 8:51 PM > >>>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>With that said I still think Alvarion is a far better platform than > >>>>>Canopy which is strictly my opinion and has no basis in fact. In the > >>>>>past I have been put-off by a perceived arrogance I have seen by some > >>>>>Alvarion representatives who have insisted previously that they had the > >>>>>"only" viable solution for wireless broadband and seemed as though they > >>>>>were claiming almost a "holier than thou" behavior toward anyone > >>>>> > >>>>> > >stating > > > > > >>>>>another opinion than their own. I have also seen a terribly biased > >>>>>negative attitude toward Alvarion by many WISPs who wanted to drive > >>>>> > >>>>> > >home > > > > > >>>>>the "WISP=Cheap" mentality to the point of alienating Alvarion from our > >>>>>entire market segment. Both Alvarion and most WISPs have lost a great > >>>>>ally in each other and I suspect both sides have suffered from such > >>>>>negativity. I am hoping to see this division closed between the typical > >>>>>WISP operator and Alvarion. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>Until Alvarion makes a product that's viable for more than "niche" > >>>> > >>>> > >market > > > > > >>>>WISP, the 'division' is simply going to continue to exist. They have > >>>>certain products that WISP's will find useful and valuable, but they > >>>> > >>>> > >don't > > > > > >>>>make mainstream WISP "last mile" equipment. I have been expecting to > >>>> > >>>> > >see > > > > > >>>>them announce something, but so far, I've not seen anything. > >>>> > >>>>The ball's in thier court. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 > >>>>personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net > >>>>sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net > >>>>Fast Internet, NO WIRES! > >>>> > >>>> > >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>-- > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>- > >>>> > >>>>-- > >>>>WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >>>> > >>>>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >>>>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >>>> > >>>>Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>-- > >>>>WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >>>> > >>>>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >>>>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >>>> > >>>>Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>-- > >>WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >>Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > >> > > > > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
