George,

Just a few brief responses and ideas (I'm getting ready to go flying across the country again).

1. Design - Yes, local WISPs must be allowed to participate in the network design for the reason you mention. Spectrum must be managed to avoid both interfering with the WISPs operation and to avoid the WISP interfering with the muni network. One area of cooperation is to have the WISP backhaul the muni access points.

2. The muni network should never promise "free" access for everyone (residential and business). The muni access should be limited to public areas, visitor use, and (possibly) as a backup (not primary) communications media for public safety workers in times of emergency. Muni networks (IMHO) should not be used to try to replace traditional business Internet access which for-profit ISPs and WISPs are already supplying.

3. WISPs must take the lead in educating their cities government officials about how wireless really works and the limitations of muni networks that the mesh equipment vendors avoid mentioning (like interference with existing wireless networks, self-interference from too many omnis on every corner, limited throughput capability, etc.). WISPs who just wait for the muni network to fail (and fail they will) are asking to be put out of business by well-meaning but wirelessly-uneducated City officials and IT personnel.

WISPs must do their best to play a positive role or risk loss of their business. When cities and WISPs both lose, guess who wins???

AT&T wins and we all know that is not a fair, just, or beneficial outcome for anybody but AT&T.
                               jack


George wrote:

I am doubting that wisps can actually accomadate the muni in most situations, unless they are closely involved with the design of the network, Talking spectrum use here.

As for going along with free muni wifi, How is a wisp going to operate if a muni is offering for free or at cut rate pricing? And how are they going to expand if the spectrum is used up all over the place with unlicensed omni's on every corner.

George

Jack Unger wrote:

Unfortunately, this may be one of the first of many such muni problems that I've been forcasting for years. Muni wireless can be done correctly and WISPs (IMHO) should always try (when allowed) to play a positive role in proper network design and operation however most muni networks are incorrectly designed by people with limited wireless experience (yes, that even includes some mesh network vendors) which will lead to network failure, waste of taxpayer money, and possible loss of jobs on the part of the city IT folks (not to mention the elected officials) who backed the networks without first learning about how wireless technology really works.
              jack

George wrote:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060424/ap_on_hi_te/muni_wi_fi_hiccups

I am not a fan of muni wireless.

George





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