Same thing is happening here in New Orleans. I did talk to the city before it was designed but when I told them that it would be impossible for every houshold to pop open a laptop in their desired room the door was slammed shut. They did not want to hear this. I built a small mesh out downtown just for kicks a couple of years ago. Took my time and designed it the best it could be. These guys that do not know the technology get this vision to do whats impossible. Superior Wireless New Orleans,La. www.superior1.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Webster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 10:10 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes
> Jack, > I hate to say it but didn't we say I told you so........ There is just not > enough spectrum to design networks like this to work with anything but > dedicated CPE devices with outdoor antennas. Simply flooding an area with > more signal to let laptops inside a house work will not solve the problem. > It just creates more noise on already maxed out spectrum. I really wish the > vendors and project stalwarts would admit this is a problem with these > networks and not gloss it over. Self interference and outside interference > are always going to be huge problems in these muni-networks. Everyone trying > to build on the fact that off the shelf consumer devices can access this > network will be the downfall. Wi-fi was never designed for a massive outdoor > deployment such as this and when you try to make up for the fact that you do > not have control over the CPE when it comes to proper RF planning you are > doomed to failure. Just my 2 cents. > > > > Thank You, > Brian Webster > www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com> > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jack Unger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 10:29 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes > > > Unfortunately, this may be one of the first of many such muni problems > that I've been forcasting for years. Muni wireless can be done correctly > and WISPs (IMHO) should always try (when allowed) to play a positive > role in proper network design and operation however most muni networks > are incorrectly designed by people with limited wireless experience > (yes, that even includes some mesh network vendors) which will lead to > network failure, waste of taxpayer money, and possible loss of jobs on > the part of the city IT folks (not to mention the elected officials) who > backed the networks without first learning about how wireless technology > really works. > jack > > George wrote: > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060424/ap_on_hi_te/muni_wi_fi_hiccups > > > > I am not a fan of muni wireless. > > > > George > > -- > Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. > Serving the License-Free Wireless Industry Since 1993 > Author of the WISP Handbook - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs" > True Vendor-Neutral WISP Consulting-Training-Troubleshooting > Our next WISP Workshops are April 12-13 and April 26-27 > Phone (VoIP Over Broadband Wireless) 818-227-4220 www.ask-wi.com > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
