I worked with C.L. Hoewing when I was on the board.  He was thoughtful and
insightful, but had no more influence on USIIA's activities or policies than
anyone else.

> Excuse me, but USIIA has never been a friend of the independent ISP.
> USIIA and Dave McClure have pro RBOC on almost every issue.

Care to give some examples?  USIIA's official positions are very
pro-independent ISP.  You can find them here:

The only policy that I can think of that you might misconstrue to be
pro-RBOC is the one of eliminating the requirement that RBOCs open their DSL
networks to independent ISPs.  I was on the board when the Brand X Internet
case was being debated.  I supported USIIA's official position.

For those who aren't familiar with the Brand X Internet case, Brand X is the
name of an ISP that wanted to force open access to the cable networks so
that they could deliver high-speed Internet over the cable network.  The
case went to the Supreme Court.

USIIA's position was and is that there needs to be regulatory parity between
broadband network types.  That means DSL and cable (and wireless and
satellite and broadband over power lines, etc) need to operate under the
same set of rules.  Up till then, DSL networks were regulated (and forced
open to independent ISPs) and cable networks were not regulated (and not
open to independent ISPs).

USIIA's also took the position that less regulation is better.  Rather than
add regulation to the cable networks (which would certainly be later
expanded to regulate wireless and satellite and broadband over power line
networks, etc), USIIA supported removal of regulation of DSL networks.

Yes, that might seem like pro-RBOC.  But it was good for the independent
WISP.  Had the Supreme Court ruling gone the other way, we'd be looking at
laws that would force wireless network operators, like those on this list,
to open their networks to their competitors.


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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <>
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] USIIA

> Excuse me, but USIIA has never been a friend of the independent ISP.
> USIIA and Dave McClure have pro RBOC on almost every issue.
> Verizon sits on your board!  (
> Regards,
> Peter
> RAD-INFO, Inc.
> David Sovereen wrote:
> > Many of you seem to be of the belief that the proposed bill requires
> > you to keep records of the content of subscribers.  Simply put, that
> > is NOT THE CASE.  While I do not know the specific details of the
> > various proposals, I do know that none of them are expecting ISPs to
> > keep copies of content accessed.
> >
> > The proposed bills are requiring that ISPs keep track of what
> > subscriber used what IP address(es).  One version of the bill wants
> > this data retained for one year; another version for two years.  For
> > ISPs using RADIUS for accounting or making static IP assignments, this
> > is pretty easy to do.  I don't know what requirements, if any, are
> > being proposed for subscribers placed behind a NAT firewall shared by
> > many subscribers.
> >
> > I understand that WISPA is an organization still in its infancy, and
> > they don't currently have the resources to "lobby" congress.  But
> > there IS an organization speaking to congress on your bahalf on this
> > issue: The United States Internet Industry Association.
> >
> > As a former member of the board of directors, I can assure you that
> > this is a small, but vocal organization, and they are representing
> > YOUR interests.  Data retention requirements have been on USIIA's
> > radar for quite some time.  On Feburary 17, 2005 (last year) the board
> > of directors adopted this policy as USIIA's official position on data
> > retention:
> >
> > If you'd like to support an organization that does speak to congress
> > and is representing your interests, you might consider giving USIIA
> > your financial.  For the record, their board receives no
> > compensation.  The only paid employee is David McClure, their
> > full-time President and CEO (and "lobbyist", but he doesn't go by that
> > title).
> >
> > Dave
> >
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