I'd also argue that the $50 one time cost of a router is not nearly enough
compenasation for a home user to risk their connection security and
performance, or what ever other features are getting forced on them by
accepting the $5 router. Consdiering they are likely paying $50 PER MONTH
for their broadband connection.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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From: "John J. Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: Wireless In Washington
This should be reason enough for a close look at TOS and pricing mechanisms.
If your clients have to pay more for usage, then they will think twice
before buying into this.
Fry's Electronics usually has a $20 wireless router on sale so this is not
the only possible threat. The $20 wireless router they sell usually freezes
after a couple of hours of heavy usage though...
John
-----Original Message-----
From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 08:08 AM
To: [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [WISPA] Fw: Wireless In Washington
For those that still think the all you can eat option is a good one :-)
Marlon
(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services
42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
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This guy needs to get a job from FON.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200989,00.html
Wi-Fi Company to Sell Routers for Five Dollars
Monday, June 26, 2006
STORIES
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Reports of Death of Dial-Up Internet Greatly Exaggerated
LONDON - FON, a Spanish start-up on an ambitious crusade to turn
home Wi-Fi connections into wireless "hotspots" for nearby users, is set
to unveil on Monday a plan to hand out 1 million wireless routers for just
$5 apiece.
FON, which aims to create a network of home users and small
businesses to resell wireless access to passersby, said on Sunday it will
subsidize $60 Cisco (CSCO) Linksys or Buffalo routers for $5 in the United
States or 5 euros in Europe.
Routers are small boxes users connect to cable or telephone Internet
connections to broadcast wireless signals to nearby devices, inside a
home, business or surrounding neighborhood.
Juergen Urbanski, North American general manager, said FON, which in
February raised $21.7 million from backers, including the founders of
Google (GOOG) and Skype, is looking to turn the brand-name equipment into
what it calls "social routers."
The goal of the Madrid-based company is to build block-by-block
networks of shared wireless connections around the globe, turning local
Wi-Fi users into an army of "foneros" - its term for people who share
wireless access.
As the company's name implies, FON aims to provide wireless Internet
access not just to computer users but also for mobile phones and the
latest portable gaming devices as they roam.
(Story continues below)
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From: Kevin Owen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 11:05 AM
To: 'Mike Hall'
Subject: FW: Wireless In Washington
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From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:53 AM
To: webmaster; omimo
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Wireless In Washington
Hiya,
Comments below.
Marlon
(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services
42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
----- Original Message -----
From: webmaster
To: omimo
Cc: Marlon Schafer
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: Wireless In Washington
I have forwarded your inquiry for reply.
Mary
----- Original Message -----
From: omimo
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 2:49 PM
Subject: Wireless In Washington
Hi,
I was really encouraged by your experiences starting up a wireless network
service.
mks: Thanks!
I'm about to move to a house near Uniontown WA.
mks: Cool. You'll like it there.
I am sad because I have to give up my connection that I 'borrow' from my
landlord thanks to a small repeater sitting on his kitchen windowsill and a
converted steel salad bowl with my D-Link USB unit attached. Range: 150
yards with 56Mbps to his home network.
mks: Grin
I was so proud of that hack.
mks: Big grin!
My new place is about 8km from one of the local providers antenna's and
13km from anther one. The provider is First Step Internet out of Moscow,
ID.
mks: Coolness. I know those guys. Good people. Great network. I've
cc'd Kevin from fsr for you.
They have a 1.5 mbps connection for $35/month but want me to use their
Trango 5.3/5.8GHz antenna and a modem of their own spec that they want to
sell to me.
In addition to a $600 setup fee.
mks: Hmmmm. You sure that's the going deal for a residential connection?
Sounds like a business one to me. Still pretty cheap though, have you ever
paid for a connection to the telco? My last t-1 had a $500 install fee
plus $500 per month and a 36 month contract. I just upgraded to a 10 meg
fiber link that whacked my $5000.00 in install fees! sigh
There has got to be a way I can make this happen (and share it with my
neighbors hopefully) in spite of the tech support spiel "we usually don't
allow personal equipment to connect due to variable quality of consumer
products".
mks: That's almost exactly the same language we use. We'd also not let
you "share" with your neighbors. That's really not sharing, it's stealing.
When you buy a connection it's for YOUR use not everyone elses. We pay for
your access based on what you do, if you do too far above the average (as
you would when "sharing") we lose money on the account. Lose too much
money and no one will get service.
mks: The way that *we* manage that is to charge a per bit fee. You get a
gig of data with your monthly account. After that you have to buy the
extra gigs you use. And we're very expensive for overages. We do not
allow you to run servers either. Even on the business accounts, if you
want to host email, put it on our servers, then it's our fault when it gets
hacked into and generates an extra couple of thousand in upstream bills on
month!
The house has a couple of new, and currently redundant, dishnetwork dishes
with three feedhorns, couldn't I use these somehow?
mks: Nope. I guess you *could* but it would be more trouble than it would
be worth. In the end it would cost you more money than doing it right.
I sure hope you have some advice.
mks: I sure hope you liked my advice!
laters,
marlon
Thanks.
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