Re: [WISPA] e911 anyone?

[Carl A Jeptha]

Mac, Will you be operating in Canada Also?????? May be a little cold for you :-P You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Mac Dearman wrote: Matt, West Corporation bought Intrado for 465 million dollars not including expenses. I think that makes Intrado pretty sound and West Corporation is up 24% to $460 million in revenues in their second quarter reports 2006. Who are they? Hell who really cares? They had 460 million CASH - - someone knows them well and does a lot of business with them! You can try to trash anything, but that does not change the truth of what is going on at Intrado, West Communications or their partners. You can schpill a bunch of crap, but that is not going to change the fact that you are not legal in what you are doing if you aren't providing e911 for your VoIP clients. Now, as far as we are concerned - for any and all that want to sell their VoIP solution (or ours) and not worry about having the FCC breathe down their necks - - I am offering a solution that will allow that at a price that will not send them to the bank or wonder how they are going to manage to pay next months bills due to an outrageous expense where there is no ROI. I am doing my best to make it easier on the WISP while you are trying to make them believe that you have the only solution or our solution has serious flaws. I have no doubt that you are a knowledgeable person, but dude - you are not the God of VoIP! Can you ever speak well of what someone else is doing or what the industry has happening? Is it always a terrible thing if you aren't in the middle of it? As far as providing e911 where there is NO 911 services - - well that says it all. That would be like building a 5 star hotel in the ghetto. Nomadic e911 is one method of handling that until the actual 911 build out is accomplished. It does make you legal if you are doing business in a place like that. I don't have a clue as to where that would be, but it is better than a bed pan and two drum sticks. It is a honest effort to accomplish what is not yet possible. I didn't say it was the best - - I said it would get you by to make you legal. I am also unsure what MANUAL administrative processes you are referring too and if you would care to hit me off list with that I will do my darndest to understand. I think the crowd has answered the rest of your email as far as what has kept them out of the VoIP business :-) I will not debate this on list any further as far as the technical goes, but I will say if you need a fine e911 provider and you are a WISPA member - - hit me off list for your discounted price, full service - FCC Certified letter guaranteeing our compliance and I will be happy to reply. Sho nuff, Mac -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 1:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] e911 anyone? Mac Dearman wrote: I am at a loss here as they are the Nations largest and even providing for certain Telcos! They have written the book on e911 as well as hold a many patents on the technology. They are the nations largest in terms of e911 management. However, before last year they didn't have a single e911 trunk. They tried to leverage their situation and provide VoIP e911 until they found themselves out of money from the buildout expense. They were bought by an unheard of company back in January. See http://radinfo.blogspot.com/2006/01/intrado-gets-bought.html. Yes - there is. First, where there are no actual 911 addresses or the County/Parish does not have their end set up there is the long/Lat approach that is being used. The right PSAP is still attained and the right address is given. Wrong, the FCC requires the VoIP operator to support e911 regardless of whether it is available. The VoIP operator is not allowed to market services in areas where e911 isn't supported. Well, we are doing much better than that :-) The biggest advantage with us is that once the e911 call is placed it does not travel over SIP trunks or the internet when it hits our NOC as we have dedicated PRIs to handle that traffic and we dump it to that route. This way we are not relying on Level3 in Dallas J but a straight shot to Intrado. Having PRIs doesn't help you with manual administrative processes. Your company is not special; every telecom company has to deal with these issues. You just don't know that you will have to. The e911 price is exactly what's holding the majority back! The majority of the ISPs who want to do VoIP can't handle a $5000.00 set up fee and then a minimum of $300.00 per month starting out with 3 VoIP phone clients! When we talk with other WISPs about VoIP they aren't so much worried about the price. They are worried about their network, supporting their customers, running their own switch, etc. It is not perfect, but VoIP is absolutely too easy! Asterisk has made it possible for my mother to set up a fully functional PBX. It kind of reminds me of driver's license in that any idiot who can breathe and see can get a license and anyone who can order a disc with the newest GUI can be in the VoIP business. Now the truth is that there are thousands out there, but only 10 worth subscribing to. Who are these 10? And why would you include your company in the list? Do you resell e911? No Who are you using for a solution? The ILEC like everyone else. Do you have a FCC certificate for each State you are doing business in? We are well aware of all the FCC regulations that impact our company and abide by them. -Matt

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