I use wunderground on my Verizon PDA phone as well.  If you look under the Wunderground logo, you will see a link to the pda/mobile version.  I set my home page on the pda to the local radar map on the pda version.  It loads immediately when I open IE on my phone.  Great map although it doesn’t have all the features of the desktop/laptop version.


Rick Harnish


OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.


Founding Member of WISPA

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 11:55 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Weather Watcher Request


Hello Ken,


Yes, it has been some time since we last met.  I believe it was with my brother Jack more than a couple years ago at your place near Alvarado.  I believe it may have even been before you had a tower up!  Time flies!


My first mobile data card (still have it in a drawer) was from Air America reselling the Ricochet service.  The service was tolerable (200Kbps-300Kbps) if you were stationary, but pretty much unusable while driving.  I think I paid $129.00 a month or more for the service!  Crazy, but I had to have it!


My second data card was Sprint’s first generation card.  This service was far superior to Ricochet in coverage and service while driving was terrific.  This is the card I used while driving across country during a couple vacations.  Service started out at about 120Kbps-200Kbps and 350-450ms latency which was a bit worse than Ricochet.  The service did begin to slow and Sprint moved the couple cards we had to their new service that we have now. 


I figure $5 a year for a weather service I enjoy is a bargain.  I think that works out to just over a penny a day.  The site www.wunderground.com really is a great source of information and the five bucks eliminates the advertisements and enables a few additional features.  You should check it out during the next storm…I’m fairly sure the experimental “Lightning” data is pulled from a client of ours that operates a number of remote sensors our network provides service to.  Pretty amazing technology as they can actually predict a lightning strike (cloud to cloud, cloud to ground or ground to cloud) before it happens.











-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Chipps
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 8:40 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Weather Watcher Request


Hi Brad, we do need to meet each other one of these days since we are in the same city.


Interesting. I may have to look into this further. I had heard that the Sprint service was slow from other users. What is the best way to buy the hardware and monthly service for this? Is the Sprint website the only source?


Why do you pay for this weather stuff? Why not use one of the local TV station web sites or WeatherBug?


Ken Chipps


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 6:45 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Weather Watcher Request


Hello Ken,


Yes, Mark is correct.  RDC is short (in my book anyway) for Remote Desktop Control aka Terminal Services or Citrix etc…


Yes, I subscribe to www.wunderground.com for my weather information.  The $5 a year it costs is well worth the money IMO (in my opinion).  <grin>


Pulling current, animated radar images over my Sprint DATA card has not given me any trouble.  Speed test confirmation from www.testmy.net :


:::.. Download Stats ..:::

Download Connection is:: 654 Kbps about 0.65 Mbps (tested with 579 kB)

Download Speed is:: 80 kB/s

Tested From:: http://testmy.net/ (Server 1)

Test Time:: 2006/09/18 - 4:26pm

Bottom Line:: 11X faster than 56K 1MB Download in 12.8 sec

Tested from a 579 kB file and took 7.25 seconds to complete

Download Diagnosis:: 90% + Okay : running at 96.04 % of your hosts average (spcsdns.net)

D-Validation Link:: http://testmy.net/stats/id-814GRHMXW



I’ve seen well over 1Mbps before, but even then 654Kbps isn’t that bad.  Latency typically looks like this:


Pinging with 32 bytes of data:


Reply from bytes=32 time=163ms TTL=237

Reply from bytes=32 time=173ms TTL=237

Reply from bytes=32 time=188ms TTL=237

Reply from bytes=32 time=172ms TTL=237

Reply from bytes=32 time=239ms TTL=237

Reply from bytes=32 time=170ms TTL=237

Reply from bytes=32 time=185ms TTL=237

Reply from bytes=32 time=167ms TTL=237

Reply from bytes=32 time=155ms TTL=237

Reply from bytes=32 time=368ms TTL=237

Reply from bytes=32 time=151ms TTL=237

Reply from bytes=32 time=165ms TTL=237

Reply from bytes=32 time=179ms TTL=237

Reply from bytes=32 time=200ms TTL=237

Reply from bytes=32 time=162ms TTL=237

Reply from bytes=32 time=180ms TTL=237

Reply from bytes=32 time=181ms TTL=237

Reply from bytes=32 time=160ms TTL=237

Reply from bytes=32 time=175ms TTL=237

Reply from bytes=32 time=159ms TTL=237

Reply from bytes=32 time=146ms TTL=237

Reply from bytes=32 time=185ms TTL=237

Reply from bytes=32 time=143ms TTL=237


Ping statistics for

    Packets: Sent = 23, Received = 23, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

    Minimum = 143ms, Maximum = 368ms, Average = 181ms


Tracert looks like this:


Tracing route to vnsc-bak.sys.gtei.net []

over a maximum of 30 hops:


  1   171 ms   157 ms   162 ms

  2     *        *        *     Request timed out.

  3   191 ms   183 ms   190 ms

  4   326 ms   162 ms   156 ms

  5     *        *        *     Request timed out.

  6     *        *        *     Request timed out.

  7   162 ms   158 ms   164 ms

  8   168 ms   153 ms   160 ms

  9   194 ms   162 ms   157 ms  sl-gw11-atl-0-1.sprintlink.net []

 10   171 ms   161 ms   157 ms  sl-bb22-atl-5-0.sprintlink.net []

 11   161 ms   159 ms   188 ms  sl-bb25-atl-9-0.sprintlink.net []

 12   173 ms   193 ms   189 ms  sl-bb22-fw-15-0.sprintlink.net []

 13   186 ms   186 ms   184 ms  sl-bb27-fw-12-0.sprintlink.net []

 14   180 ms   183 ms   187 ms  sl-st20-dal-13-0.sprintlink.net []

 15   384 ms   173 ms   167 ms  interconnect-eng.Dallas1.Level3.net []

 16   166 ms   193 ms   206 ms  so-1-2-0.bbr1.Dallas1.Level3.net []

 17   180 ms   183 ms   192 ms  ge-11-0.core1.Dallas1.Level3.net []

 18   423 ms   224 ms   199 ms  vnsc-bak.sys.gtei.net []


Trace complete.



As with most things YMMV.  (Your Mileage May Vary)  <grin>










-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 5:52 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Weather Watcher Request


Remote Desktop Connection I would suspect…


Mark McElvy
AccuBak Data Systems, Inc.
573.729.9200 - Office
573.729.9203 - Fax
573.247.9980 - Mobile
Nationwide Internet Access
Accurate backups for your critical data!

Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 5:28 PM
To: WISPA General List; 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Weather Watcher Request


Two questions. What is RDC? Is the data rate for the Sprint card high enough to download color weather radar images quickly?

Ken Chipps

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Brad Belton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 05:48 PM
>To: ''WISPA General List''
>Subject: RE: [WISPA] Weather Watcher Request
>Agreed, cellular data is really the best solution available today and
>probably always will be for the mobile user.
>I'm reading and sending mail at the office via RDC and a Sprint Data card
>right now. Sitting in the passenger seat traveling at 70Mph+ and haven't
>missed a ping yet in over two hours. I've been inside buildings, on
>rooftops, in vehicle and out of vehicle. Just can't beat having it and it
>is only getting better.
>-----Original Message-----
>Behalf Of David E. Smith
>Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 4:32 PM
>To: WISPA General List
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Weather Watcher Request
>Scott Reed wrote:
>> I have had a request for service from our local SkyWarn volunteer watcher.
>> needs service in his vehicle during potetial storms so he can see the
>> while watching the sky. Does anyone provide similar service? If so, how
>do you
>> charge for installation, service, etc.?
>Honestly, for someone who's gonna be THAT mobile, I'd recommend a cell
>phone PCMCIA card. Yes, I work for a WISP, but I know what problems I
>can (and cannot) solve, and at least for my network, that sort of
>roaming is firmly in the "cannot" category.
>Obviously, WISP wifi roaming is possible; there was a thread about it a
>couple weeks ago, where someone did a lot of voodoo with Mikrotik. But
>unless your whole network already happens to support that, or the
>customer is rather patient, just recommending a cell card is probably
>gonna make everyone happier. (The customer gets the service they're
>looking for, and you've saved many man-hours rebuilding your network :)
>David Smith
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