OK then, Patrick, Ed, whoever, is the VL a CSMAK based product like WiFi or
a polling based product like Trango?
Marlon
(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales
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42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp!
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Belton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 12:21 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived
Hello Tom,
Just speaking from first hand experience and the experiences of the
references Alvarion gave me. Nothing more. <grin>
The VL gear is a great product for a "best effort" solution, but not a
committed rate business class service. Two very different animals.
Again, my post was only because Marlon indicated he intended to use the VL
gear for a business class rollout. I just wanted to give him a heads up,
that's all.
I do believe Alvarion's move to lower the price on the VL gear was to put it
within the reach of the market the product could best perform. The VL gear
does fly on "bursty - up to" traffic. It is amazing when it works, but it
isn't able to maintain that level of service 24x7. It's like the VL flys
when it can and then holds off looking for clean air time then flys again.
This is perfectly fine for 99% of the residential requirements, but doesn't
cut it for a business that is pushing and pulling 5Mbps+ FDX 12hrs a day.
In contrast a Trango M5830 will push and pull 4.5Mbps FDX or 8-9Mbps HDX all
day long regardless of the RF environment if the link is engineered
correctly.
Best and Merry Christmas!
Brad
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 2:05 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived
Brad,
I'm not sure that is a fair statement.
I agree, TDD/DSSS/Pol Diversity solutions can tackle that noise better, one
of the reasons Trango is still the only clear choice for a good number of my
cell sites.
But there are many reasons WISPs are making the move to OFDM. Alvarion
handles OFDM as well if not better than other OFDM solutions.
If we are comparing apples to apples (OFDM to OFDM) Alvarion has many built
in features to help guarantee QOS for high end business compared to other
OFDM solutions.
If OFDM is an Option for the WISP, Alvarion is as good an option as anyone
else for the job.
I do not agree that Alvarions move to go after residential market negates
their quality for business markets. Residential markets will simply sell
higher volume of CPEs, allowing a lower sale cost.
For me the distinguishing factor in available OFDM gear is.... Ease out of
the box versus Built-in testing tools and flexibility.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Belton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 2:11 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived
Hello Marlon,
VL won't be a good choice as a committed rate business grade product as it
will modulate down in a noisy environment. Without any RX threshold
mechanism the VL radio begins to slow and drop packets under heavy business
class loads in unfriendly RF environments. Even the references given to me
by Alvarion while overall have been happy with the product are not using VL
for committed rate business class service. IMO, Alvarion is now pushing the
VL product as a residential "best effort" solution...hence the dramatic drop
in price.
In Patrick's words:
"A $285 all inclusive CPE with nothing extra to buy, piece together, etc.
should fall within the residential business model of even small WISPs."
We've been there and almost lost a valuable client trying to use VL for a
committed rate business class customer.
The VL gear is a high quality product with a number of valuable features,
but it is missing a few key items that keep it form performing well (or at
all) as a committed rate business class solution. Only reason for my post
was because of your intended use of the VL product.
Best and Merry Christmas!
Brad
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 11:05 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived
Right on! Can't wait till I build another business grade system out here.
That's what I plan on using.
Marlon
(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services
42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Dougherty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 6:47 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived
Well we got our 1st 100 pack of VL Su's under the Comnet program
yesterday- Just wanted you all to know they are the EXACT same radios as
before the big price drop- Same high quality metal radio and still
INCLUDES the mounting hardware AND the pre-made cat5 outdoor cable (60ft
long)- the cable is worth more then you can imagine- the RJ45 plug is
already factory terminated and properly shielded so your installers
don't have to do that up on the roof and you don't have to worry about a
bad connector later.
We have deployed a LOT of these radios already and I can tell you this
is a great price. I'm looking forward to Alvarion extending this program
to other products. (Patrick...)
Marty
___________________________________
Marty Dougherty
CEO
Roadstar Internet Inc.
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