The legality and ethics of using an open access point is questionable, but there is a liability issue as well. In most of the areas that I cover with my network, there is a strong signal with SSID of NoDial. Connecting to this will get you a DHCP address even, without a WEP or other encryption key. Until I know that you have connected and moved your mac address to a list that authorizes your connection, all of your outbound packets will be sent to This brings up a liability issue. If the emergency communication van tech wastes 2 hrs trying to get hold of me, get connected to the internet, or whatever, and $10M of houses burn down, because they couldn't get to the fire department via a hacked VOIP solution, then am I gonna get sued? If they connect to my private home network that I intentionally left open, and my custom made uber-hacker passive/aggressive firewall unleashes a blackops virus that turns their laptops into bricks. Then what?

I guess, that by JohnnyO's example, if you come into my open door and try to visit with my wife, and you step on a rake that gives you a brain anurism, I guess that makes me guilty (or not guilty) of manslaughter. I lost score in this ballgame.

If the cops are in a pursuit in my neighborhood, and run their squad car off the road breaking the radio, and they want to use my home phone to call the office, I would let them. Not because I HAVE to, but to be a good citizen. If I HAD to, then the 4th amendment just went out the window.


Jack Unger wrote:

Holy brainfade, JohnnyO.

Your comments about "highly illegal" just went STRAIGHT over my head.

What's illegal about Brian's emergency communications operation? Hams have been providing emergency communications services since (literally) the sinking of the Titanic.


JohnnyO wrote:

Brian - Ham Operator or not - do you realize that what you're planning
on doing is HIGHLY illegal and has several people over the past 2 yrs in
Federal Prison as we speak ?

Why don't ya'll get a VSAT system that works well for VOIP ? The cost is
only about $60/mo more and you have no restrictions on bandwidth or
stupid filtering like Wild Blue does....


-----Original Message-----
Behalf Of Brian Webster
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 2:56 PM
To: WISPA List
Subject: [WISPA] recommendation for Client POE integrated radio for

I'm looking for a good client radio to use in an emergency
vehicle. My criteria are, POE, highest gain panel antenna possible,
scan/survey tool built in, web interface, 802.11b at minimum. I'm part
of a
ham radio emergency response group and we have our own comms van. I want
have a client radio that we can use on a push up mast to scan around for
open access point and grab bandwidth in an emergency on a scene. We
with our county Hazmat team for support and the internet is handy. We
already have a Wild Blue setup and that will work when necessary but I
like to be able to use something with lower latency so we can implement
at times. I have not studied the 802.11b outdoor client radios in a long
time and thought I would ask opinions here. Price is a consideration but
feature set is more important. Id' like to stay away from YDI/Proxim
because of their attitude on the phone whenever I have dealt with them.
any of you can point me to a link were I can purchase one that would be
great. Have a nice day.

Thank You,
Brian Webster

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