Sure.  Anytime there are people around....

I agree though. I don't understand why people that disagree can't do so without the insults.

Like mama used to say, if you've got nothing good to say....  grin

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Dougherty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 9:34 AM
Subject: [WISPA] what's this list all about anyhow?


This list is often very ugly and can be a big waste of time.

Has it always been that way?

Marty

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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dawn DiPietro
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 12:21 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Muni networks, the good, bad and ugly

Mark,

Many if not most RFP's today require a percentage of accounts be
discounted heavily or given away for just the reasons you are describing.

The term "Digital Inclusion" is used in this document to describe the
goal of expanding the capabilities of computing technology worldwide to
better serve social and economic challenges of underserved communities,
both rural and urban.

If you would get off your own train and look around and maybe read a
thing or two on this subject maybe you would understand this a little
better.

Regards,
Dawn DiPietro



Mark Koskenmaki wrote:

----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 6:13 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Muni networks, the good, bad and ugly




There are numerous studies that demonstrate that towns that lack
broadband are economically deficient compared to towns with broadband.
Job growth, tax base increase, home value stability, higher per capita
income.



The economic deficiency drives the lack of broadband, not the other way
around.

You can't raise the dog to life by wagging it's tail.

I live in one of those towns, and have many of them in the region
surrounding me.   Broadband is not the issue.  The economic conditions are
driven ENTIRELY by other factors.    Just like poor roads don't help, a
lack
of connectivity may be some hindrance, but building a superhighway to a
depressed community will simply NOT create magic.    Broadband brought to
these places may have some neglible impact, but the lack is not  the cause
of economic problems, nor will provisioning it "fix" things.

Unfortunately, too many people are riding this train.    Politicians are
holding it out as a "fix" ( BB access has never hurt a town's economy, of
course) for things when it isn't, and lots of businessmen are exploiting
that for thier own pocketbooks.   The people who are being sold this are
the
unwitting victims.   They need real solutions to other real problems, and
ignoring them and offering fashionable modern services as a fix is a red
herring...



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