But, the model will work if you bill by the bytes.... If Joe is paying $40 per month for 6 Gig and gets throttled at 6 Gig, then he has a disincentive for keeping going. If he is paying $40 for unlimited access, he has no reason to slow down.
Charter cable is doing 10 meg down/1 meg up in some markets for like $99 per month, how can you compete with that? John >-----Original Message----- >From: Travis Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 07:59 PM >To: 'WISPA General List' >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service Offerings, By Speed or All You Can Eat? >Was: Advanced Bandwidth Management > >No... I don't think that model works... because Joe Surfer sees how fast >this last movie downloaded and decides to grab 3 more while he's at it... >The model of "the customer will use what they are going to use and then >get off" is not true... imagine if Joe Surfer figures out he can >download the movies AND still surf, check email, etc. at the same time? >Then he can just leave it downloading 24x7. :( > >Travis >Microserv > >RickG wrote: >> Sorry guys for hijacking the thread but this hit a chord... >> >> I've sold bandwidth in all sorts of ways but the most prevalent is by >> speed which is the way am currently doing it. My question is this: >> What if you played the "cable game" and just sell all you can eat? >> Would that not free up your network more quickly for everybody else? >> Example: Joe Surfer downloads movies on demand but is too cheap to buy >> your highest speed offering. So, he buys your slowest speed and ties >> up your network much longer. Just looking for some opinions here ;) >> >> Thanks! >> RickG >> >> On 1/24/07, Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> OR, we could stop playing the Cable Co. and Telco "games" with their "up >>> to 3meg" and "up to 7meg" connections for $34.95 and just start selling >>> what they get. >>> >>> We started selling 512k, 1meg, 1.5meg and 2meg connections (up and down, >>> guaranteed speed 24x7) about 3 years ago. It was the best thing we ever >>> did... people get what they pay for, and when they need more, they buy >>> more. No games, no "burstable" speeds, etc. >>> >>> Make your customers pay for what they need and use. >>> >>> Travis >>> Microserv >>> >>> Blair Davis wrote: >>> > We sell mainly to residential users and to some small businesses. >>> > >>> > We are quite rural, and my cost for a T-1 is $450 per month. My >>> > pending fiber hookup is $1100 per month for 5Mbit. >>> > >>> > A bit ago, a business customer's new IT consultant complained that the >>> > 256Kbit committed rate for $60 a month was over priced. He demanded a >>> > 1Mbit committed rate and no price change. I explained this was not >>> > possible. He was quite nasty and told me he was recommending that the >>> > customer find a new ISP. I, fed up with his big city attitude, told >>> > him to go right ahead. He said to come pick up the gear on this >>> > Friday. Although, I might have lost my temper a bit and used some >>> > words that the FCC doesn't permit on the phone...... >>> > >>> > After he was quoted $600 per month for a T1, (and $9500 install), and >>> > a 3 month lead time, he called me back... >>> > >>> > He decided that my offer of 1Mbit committed rate (6am-6pm, Mon-Fri) >>> > and a 256Kbit committed rate at other times) for $250 a month was a >>> > damn good deal...... >>> > >>> > The point of this, is that, for many customers, pricing and bandwidth >>> > expectations are being driven by the cheap bandwidth in the large >>> > cites.... Out here in the real world, it don't work that way..... >>> > >>> > The other point is, that with a good mix of residential and business >>> > customers, and a little creative thinking, one can match their usage >>> > patterns to minimize ones peak bandwidth requirements while still >>> > providing the 'fast, snappy feel' that the users prefer.... >>> > >>> > Just my $.02 >>> > >>> > >>> > J. Vogel wrote: >>> > >>> >> I would suspect that the customer (as is the case in much of the >>> world, >>> >> not necessarily in the limited >>> >> world you may operate in) does not want to, or in many case could not >>> >> pay for such a pipe. In many >>> >> areas of the US, especially rural, bandwidth is extremely expensive. >>> >> Customers do not want to pay >>> >> close to $1k / month for their residential connection to the >>> internet, >>> >> yet the customer would like to >>> >> access the internet at speed approaching 1.5 mbps (or even faster) >>> >> whenever they can. In such a case >>> >> it makes sense, is good business practice, and not at all >>> unethical to >>> >> sell customers shared bandwidth. >>> >> >>> >> In cases such as these, the question posed by the OP is a valid >>> >> question, and deserves an answer >>> >> other than one which implies that they may be doing something they >>> >> should not be. The world is a big >>> >> place. It is good to get out and see parts of it you may not have >>> seen >>> >> lately. >>> >> >>> >> John >>> >> >>> >> Matt Liotta wrote: >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>> Have you thought about selling the customer a pipe that works for >>> any >>> >>> and all traffic at the speed the customer signed up for as >>> opposed to >>> >>> deciding for the customer? >>> >>> >>> >>> -Matt >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> -- >>> WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >-- >WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
