On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:44:20 -0800, George Rogato wrote
> wispa wrote:
> 
> > You actually think that the "big guys" will actually let that happen?
> 
> Yeah, I can see it now, our upstreams turning CALEA compliance into 
> a profit center.
> 
> Anyways if you want to bring your own tape recorder  up to the feds 
> and ask them some questions, go for it.
> 
> But the offer still stands.
> 
> Any reasonable question regarding the implementation of CALEA 
> compliance I will be glad to ask.

What is unreasonable about asking them about all the informal and semi-formal 
and little community, neighborhood, and other hobby networks out there?  

I suspect there's a lot of people who haven't even thought this far, and are 
so buried in 'big business' perspective they're going to be at a loss to be 
able to answer this.

I consider the answer to this VITAL.  Why?  Because that's the key to 
understanding what the ultimate goal is.  If they say "they're not the issue" 
then we REALLY have a big bullseye on our backs, and it's the big guys who 
painted it.  If they intend to shut down or force compliance on every 
network, no matter how formed or how small, or under what auspices it was 
formed, then it's time for some activism to end this - the flow of 
information is not holy ground the government owns. 

This isn't political George.  I don't know just where the line is for you, 
where you suddenly say "man, this is nuts, we shouldn't have to do this!" and 
you say so... But I am dumbfounded that without ANY idea of what impact this 
may have on you and your business and customers and employees PERSONALLY, you 
still are not even considering objecting. 

With the exception of Rick, I have yet to see anyone who seems to even think 
they should ever object.  Instead, we're talking about going, hat in hand, 
saying "tell us what to do". 

People, WHAT ARE WE, men or sheep?  Trust me, EVERY industry talks 
back..objects to excessive regulation.  Many of them spend millions of 
dollars to try to influence Congress to back off.  

And we're afraid to even disagree, even if the cost is unemployment. 

( shakes head )

Sorry guys.  Until I was 25 years old, I followed everything my parents said 
without question.  Then I guess I finally had my teenage rebellion years.  

Maybe they're not over with... but for some reason, I find myself saying GET 
THE BLOODY HECK OUTA MY BUSINESS to the government, and thinking I have not 
only the right, but the OBLIGATION to do this, merely because I am a citizen, 
and we ALL have that obligation to defend ourselves and our own best 
interests from excessive meddling. 



> 
> George
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