David:
I said it was a subjective list; your mileage may vary.
My statement was factual - I won't KNOWINGLY list systems that aren't
FCC certified, but I'll admit that I did not exhaustively check the
FCC database to verify each and every product that a vendor lists for
sale has a corresponding FCC certification, nor did I do the minimal
work that you did in trying to match up vendor names with
certifications. It's a SIMPLE list, available free for public use to
see just how MANY vendors there are out there making gear for
Broadband Wireless Internet Access... it's nothing resembling a
research report. (And, for the record, the more detailed report
that's mentioned doesn't yet exist. If there is significant,
lucrative interest in such a report, I may well generate one, but for
now, this is just a simple list of vendors that are (apparently)
still in business, making gear for Broadband Wireless Internet Access.
As to your claims,
Aruba Networks is well-established, so I'm not going to sweat that one.
Avantry was deleted from the list.
Cambridge Broadband is also well-established.
I'll give Deliberant the benefit of the doubt.
Eion Wireless assumed the product line of the late Wi-LAN, so it's
not surprising that there are no certs yet under their name.
I'll remove GIL Technology and Qorvus and ask for clarification if
their systems are certified.
Thanks,
Steve
On Feb 15, 2007, at Feb 15 09:57 PM, David Peterson wrote:
I have lurked for some time now, but feel the need to address an
alarming
trend on this list. There are "Industry Leaders" putting "facts"
out there
with out fully examining the truth. Before you flame me, please
read all
that is below my signature as proof to my comments...
Steve, dude... I figure these are advertisers to your blog/
newsletter and as
such should have come with a disclaimer. Your claim of " Please
note that
I'm deliberately not listing vendors who only sell
sub-systems such as antennas, radio cards, etc. - only full-blown
radio systems suitable for outdoor use. An additional caveat is that
I won't knowingly list systems that are not FCC certified." is
patently
untrue as you will notice below. I have added my comments on the
vendors I
know personally. You have placed yourself as an industry leader
for some
time now. I would have expected that you would not adopt a "don't
ask,
don't tell" mentality to your claim of "knowing" something. I only
say this
as it only took some personal knowledge of the industry and one
hour of my
time to discover the flaws in your claim.
Patrick, as an "Industry Leader", I would expect that you would not
just
accept anything as "fact" without researching the claim first.
There are a
lot of people who accept what you say as fact.
While this information is not 100% accurate as the FCC has a lot of
work
submitted to them every day. I am merely suggesting that the
statements of
the "Industry Leaders" should be viewed with the traditional
skepticism that
should accompany statements from a vendor/vendor-subsidized source.
Don't forget to read below the ______ line. I have pasted my
search results
from www.fcc.gov site.
David Peterson
Formerly of Ultramesh Inc.
(a repackaging manufacturer of LocustWorld mesh software + Senao +
PCEngines
motherboards)
---------
Read below : all information is freely available at www.fcc.gov in
the OET
search page.
---------
Aruba Networks
There are no applications on file that match the search criteria
specified:
Applicant Name: Aruba Networks
Avantry
There are no applications on file that match the search criteria
specified:
Applicant Name: Avantry
Cambridge Broadband
There are no applications on file that match the search criteria
specified:
Applicant Name: Cambridge Broadband
CarrierComm
There are no applications on file that match the search criteria
specified:
Applicant Name: CarrierComm
CoCo Communications (WISP cum "manufacturer")
There are no applications on file that match the search criteria
specified:
Applicant Name: CoCo Communications
Deliberant
I only list them as they only have recently started to "reclassify"
RTL-8186
wireless OEM modules. They have sold many radios "illegal" as
this list
has classified them. If you look at their recent certs you will
find that
they do not manufacture radios but have re-certified them in order
to please
forums such as this. They have been a homebrewer turned
integrator/assembly house since they started.
See if their certs match their output power:
From fcc.gov
---------
FCC IDENTIFIER: UB8-DLB7000
Name of Grantee: Deliberant LLC
Equipment Class: Part 15 Spread Spectrum Transmitter
Notes: DIGITAL TRANSMISSION SYSTEM
Grant Notes FCC Rule Parts Frequency
Range (MHZ) Output
Watts Frequency
Tolerance Emission
Designator
20 28 36 15C 2412.0 - 2462.0 0.09441
20 28 36 15C 5745.0 - 5825.0 0.06109
-----------
From Deliberant
---------------
DLB7023 802.11a + g 23dBi Integrated Dual Radio
Sku: DLB7023
The DLB7023 802.11a + g 23dBi Dual Radio features an 802.11a
interface with
23dBi antenna as well as an 802.11b/g interface that operate
simultaneously.
This hardware configuration, along with extremely flexible software
configuration options, make the DLB7023 one of the most versatile
platforms
on the market today. Each interface can be an AP, Client, or WDS
bridge,
which results in the perfect outdoor radio for remote repeaters,
apartment
communities, and dual-band APs and CPEs.
------------------
(Could be wrong, let me know if 0.06109 EIRP = the above specs...)
EION Wireless
There are no applications on file that match the search criteria
specified:
Applicant Name: EION Wireless
GIL Technology
There are no applications on file that match the search criteria
specified:
Applicant Name: GIL Technology
Qorvus (they only repackage LocustWorld based software with CM9/
Ubiquiti and
200mW Senao cards)
There are no applications on file that match the search criteria
specified:
Applicant Name: Qorvus
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