George, ones person's "innovation" is something that might another person nothing but migraines. If you think you getting cutting edge innovation and state of the art technology from the uncertified manufacturers I don't know what to tell you except your technology exposure may be a bit narrow.
Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 5:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Following the FCC rules are now simplyabout being"stickerconscious" or not?? Ho ho ho Patrick, So, to add to the list of reasons why a lot of wisps use uncertified gear. One reason that was exposed, was that manufacturers were not keeping up with technology fast enough and the kit systems offered newer technology and allowed a wisp to be more "innovative" What say you Mr. Leary? Has Alvarion been keeping up fast enough? George (oh yeah, I also think there was a lot of crap slung as cpe's) Patrick Leary wrote: > Mac, > > That's good news that some previously illegal gear is now undergoing FCC > certification. It is good for everyone, regardless of what finally led > them to earn it. As WISPs, you should use that cert as a minimum litmus > test, because it will tell you much more than just the cert itself; it > tells you that the vendor actual is concerned about YOUR business, not > just the money that can made off you. You should say to any illegal > vendor that you might use, "You know, I like your features and price, > but before I undertake any more study about the possibility of buying > your gear you need have your system FCC certified." Do that and those > guys will change their habits in a hurry. > > Patrick Leary > AVP WISP Markets > Alvarion, Inc. > o: 650.314.2628 > c: 760.580.0080 > Vonage: 650.641.1243 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Mac Dearman > Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 10:17 AM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: RE: [WISPA] Following the FCC rules are now simply about > being"stickerconscious" or not?? > > Hold your Horses there Sir Patrick! There was one comment that used that > in > their post - I don't think that "we" as an industry have evolved to that > level of degradation in dealing with the laws of the land & air. There > will > always be renegades in every avenue of life, but "we" are not in that > classification :-) and given a little time we will be someone to be > reckoned > with as the industry leader in wireless across this country. > > I must admit that I have learned a few things in the past week - or had > some things clarified that were quite an awakening for me and a few > others. > I (for one) will not deploy even one more piece of hardware that is not > FCC > certified. I have in the last year deployed many unlicensed access > points & > back haul radios though. I made a terrible mistake in doing that, but I > was > under a false impression of what was "legal." The path we will follow > from > this point on is what is really going to count. > > I do happen to know of two manufacturers who have gear at FCC > certification > labs today undergoing their certifications for some specific pieces of > their > gear. This is something that should have taken place a couple years ago, > but > now is better than never. I realize that is not going to affect the gear > I > have in the air today from these guys as it can not be certified - ever > - > even if they happen to get the exact gear certified that I have on > towers > today. > > I think this last visit WISPA members (Thanks men) made to the FCC > clarified > several things that needed clarification: > > 1. FILLOUT THOSE FORMS! > The FCC is not out to get us. They need the data that only we can > supply > them - like who we are, where we are (zip code), how many subs...Etc > > This is their way of helping us. With out this data they can only guess > how > many "we" are, how many we serve and the actual coverage area total. > Guys - > y'all please fill out the form 477 - - it's a good thing for us all. > > 2. WE ARE NOT LEGAL EVEN IF WE ARE NOT OVER POWERED OR OUT OF BAND. > I am not going into any details here because that is stated just as > simple as it can get. > > Sincerely, > Mac Dearman > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Patrick Leary > Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 11:33 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Following the FCC rules are now simply about being > "stickerconscious" or not?? > > "Sticker conscious?" So this is what we've become as an industry? > Following the very clear laws, which were once again just reiterated to > us after another in a long chain of WISP visits, or not has now been > reduced to simply being "sticker conscious" or "not sticker conscious"? > Why not go further and call yourself "Illegal and proud" or just "I > don't give a ____"? Let's not have any more "gee, I can't afford to be > legal!" That's not an argument that is credible today, with the range > from legal cheap to premium CPE running from about $170 to sub-$300 -- > that's cheap. > > My God, 5.4 is going to be a massive mess. OET will have to install a > special phone line just to handle the incoming DoD complaint calls. > > Patrick Leary > AVP WISP Markets > Alvarion, Inc. > o: 650.314.2628 > c: 760.580.0080 > Vonage: 650.641.1243 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Sam Tetherow > Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 9:37 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] cost effective reliable 5.8G cpe suggestions? > > RB112+CM9+Rootenna if you are not sticker conscious. > If you are sticker conscious I use the Tranzeo TR5a-24/20 with MT/CM9 > setups and they work great. > > Sam Tetherow > Sandhills Wireless > > rabbtux rabbtux wrote: > >>Not to stir the "fcc sticker" debate, but what gear is out there today >>that is compatable with a MT/SR5 access point? 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