:) Nothing like cuddling up with the girls while they are still in their
footy PJs. Of course, the dog likes to pile in too. 

Patrick 

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Marty Dougherty
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 9:03 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Brief report from FCC visit

And lately my nights are filled with "the goodnight show"....

___________________________________________
Marty Dougherty
CEO
Roadstar Internet Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
703-554-6620
www.roadstarinternet.com
 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 11:59 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Brief report from FCC visit

You must not have little kids like I do! They got me up nice and early
at 6:30 AM today. I would not know recognize a weekend morning without
Sagwa or Clifford the Big Red Dog.

Patrick 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of George Rogato
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 8:49 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brief report from FCC visit

First off Patrick, we will be going to the carpet in a few minutes when 
I get my thoughts collected. I just woke up an hour ago and am sometimes

a little sluggish in the early hours.

2nd, Dlink, Linksys and Netgear all have antennas listed on their sites 
for use with their units.

I may be wrong, but I would ass u me that they have been certified.

But do your due diligense and check first to make sure.

:)

George



Patrick Leary wrote:
> "If your talking boxed units like netgear, dlink, and linksys sell, Of
> course they are certified. Is the certification void if it was torn
> apart and had a bigger antenna and amplifier added, probably not,
unless
> it is to their certified specs."
> 
> That would be uncertified. This is not a debatable point. This would
be
> taking a consumer device, which is built to permit "self-installation"
> into a device for which the FCC says there must be a "professional"
> installation. These are the most confusing parts of the rules for
> novices, but basically if you are installing for another end user, you
> are assumed to be "professional," which actually imposes certain
> liabilities and responsibilities on you.
> 
> Further, this would void the certification EVEN if it still met the
> manufacturer specs because, for better of worse, only the OEM
> manufacturer can self-certify antenna changes. George, you were in the
> room at the FCC with me when they told us this so you know it. It is
> impossible to forget since Marlon pounded them about for most of the
> meeting but they would not budge that only a manufacturer can pick and
> chose additional antennas and then only antennas of equal or less
power
> AND with similar specs (relative to emissions on sidelobs, etc.).
Really
> all that was done in that ruling was to make the "permissive change"
> rules more simple. None of this was done for the protection of the
> manufacturers, but rather to make sure the FCC had one throat to
choke.
> 
> Patrick Leary
> AVP WISP Markets
> Alvarion, Inc.
> o: 650.314.2628
> c: 760.580.0080
> Vonage: 650.641.1243
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
> Behalf Of George Rogato
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 8:24 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brief report from FCC visit
> 
> 
> 
> Sam Tetherow wrote:
> 
> 
>>So are you saying that a PCMCIA card with software and internal
> 
> antenna 
> 
>>is not certified?
>>
>>No one has yet to answer this question for me.  Is it legal for Best
> 
> Buy 
> 
>>to sell DLink/Linksys/Netgear/Belkin/... pcmcia cards for laptops?
> 
> What 
> 
>>about USB dongles?  If they are legal how is they can certify a card
> 
> and 
> 
>>drivers, but we can't certify a minipci with software?
>>
> 
> 
> If your talking boxed units like netgear, dlink, and linksys sell,
> Of course they are certified.
> Is the certification void if it was torn apart and had a bigger
antenna 
> and amplifier added, probably not, unless it is to their certified
> specs.
> 
> 

-- 
George Rogato

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