The charger is designed for the size and number of batteries in the original configuration. Changing the quantity and/or type of battery risks damaging either the charger or the batteries.

Also, runtime is determined by the batteries, so changing them changes the runtime.

paul hendry wrote:
Is anyone using external batteries on the larger APC UPS's? I've got an old Smart-UPS 3000 RM that has 8 x 12v batteries in it. The thing is they are wired in a bit of a strange config. It looks to me like they are split into 4 sets of 2 batteries running in series then 2 of those sets are cabled to the same connector inside the UPS and so there are 2 connectors with 4 batteries hanging of each.

Is there any reason I can't run 2 x 2 (in series) 12v 100ah batteries instead of the original 8? I don't seem to be able to and don't really want to get another 4 batteries just to discover I can do it with 4.

Cheers,

P.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: 16 November 2006 16:45
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] External battery on UPS

I replaced the two internal batteries last night with two external, $100
batteries, and put a load on the UPS that matched the highest load I have out in the field (80w). It took 2 Tranzeo APs, an Xpeed SDSL modem, and a 19" TV on the QVC to load it up properly. Now instead of 1 hour I get 13 hours. Bigger, better batteries should net me more time than this. My goal is bang for buck at this stage in my business...more run time for a sensible
price.

One cool thing about this setup is that I can rig it up to be able to simply take new batteries out to a site when they are getting low, instead of the
generator.  I can keep some spare batteries charged up and ready to go.
It's a whole lot cheaper and easier than purchasing multiple QUALITY 1000w generators and putting large custom tanks on them. That is if your UPS is
not on the top of a water tower or something. ;)

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-5555
541-998-5599 fax

----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] External battery on UPS


I'm pasting Gino's link to the right thread.
Then I can search me email in a year and find the correct thread....

Connectors:

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=263-110

Batteries:

http://www.donrowe.com/batteries/8a31dt.html



Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

Can we get some links to these batteries that work well?
Gino,
Got a link to the DC block connectors you were talking about?

Brian


Travis Johnson wrote:

Hi,

We run two 4 gauge power wires out the front of the case, connect
the
positive to a 60A fuse, and then to the batteries.

We are using AGM type (same thing used in UPS systems) big
batteries
(a little bigger than a car battery, but each battery is 110
pounds).
We wire them in series (to get 24VDC).

This setup has only been installed for 12-18 months at various
locations, so I don't have an estimate on battery life.

Travis
Microserv

Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

You got any pics of this or similar Travis....anyone?

Travis,
What APC do you use and what batteries are added? What do you
draw
and what is th run time?  Do you know how many times the one with
the most cycles has been drawn down? How long do the batteries
last?
Brian

Travis Johnson wrote:

You can't use just 1 battery. The APC units want to see 24vdc, so
you need two batteries running in series.

It works perfectly, as I have 20+ remote locations running off
two
gel type batteries. Make sure you install some type of a fuse on
the positive side of the connection.

Travis
Microserv

Mark Nash - Lists wrote:

I believe I remember some discussion on this list on connecting
an
external battery to an APC UPS.  I'm in the middle of doing it
right now and am having problems. The UPS just beep
continuously
with the 'bad battery' light on. I'm using a Lifeline deep
cycle
battery.  Any ideas?

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-5555
541-998-5599 fax


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