I guess my thoughts are - -well - - my own. I did one lease deal years ago and have never been so proud to finally get it paid off. We always pay for our CPE as we order them. I could be wrong about all of this, but I like being debt free and yes we suffer cash flow problems from time to time, but we have never been to a point that we couldn't buy the CPE we needed.
One of the bad things about the lease deal is not just interest, but you can't pay them off early and save any interest if you choose to do so. Mac Dearman -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 8:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless ISP's All different companies... whoever has the best deal at the time. CitiCapital GE Avalon LEAF Financial and many others Travis Microserv Carl A jeptha wrote: > Who are you leasing from??? > > You have a Good Day now, > > > Carl A Jeptha > http://www.airnet.ca > Office Phone: 905 349-2084 > Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm > skype cajeptha > > > > Travis Johnson wrote: >> And thus my argument (and proof of concept) for leasing the CPE... >> going on 5 years now with leasing and we could do 1,000 installs per >> month (assuming we could get the man-power, vehicles, tools, etc.) if >> we wanted. >> >> The other difference is we aren't using VC money or ANY outside >> investments... when we install a new customer, $39 per month is our >> starting package. $10 per month goes to pay for the CPE equipment. I >> don't have to come up with ANY money out-of-pocket, AND the >> installers time, vehicle expenses, gas, tools, etc. are paid for by >> the customer. So, it doesn't cost me a dime to install a new >> customer. :) >> >> Travis >> Microserv >> >> Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >>> My cash flow doesn't support it. We started this business with a >>> ton of debt and no outside income other than my wife's part time job. >>> >>> It takes money to grow. Grow too fast and you can run out of money >>> just as fast as you can by not growing fast enough. >>> >>> How many companies do you know that failed in spite of amazing >>> growth? grin >>> marlon >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 9:32 AM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless ISP's >>> >>> >>>> Wow... that's not the right attitude for a business that "once the >>>> customer is gone, you won't get them back". >>>> >>>> We are growing as fast as we can. March will be another record >>>> month for us with 120+ installs. If we could do 200, I would. I'm >>>> not sure why anyone would not want faster growth? Could it be that >>>> your business model doesn't support the growth? >>>> >>>> Travis >>>> Microserv >>>> >>>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >>>>> Our marketing is almost exclusively word of mouth. We loose $50 >>>>> to $100 per sub just to show up at the door. The last thing in >>>>> the world I need right now is faster growth! >>>>> >>>>> I've heard of people having great luck with door hangers or >>>>> agreements with computer repair folks. >>>>> marlon >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Smith, Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 12:58 PM >>>>> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Wireless ISP's >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> OK Marlon, how're you getting those customers to know about the >>>>> choice >>>>> you offer ? >>>>> >>>>> As a guy who's promising investors around 500 customers / year, I'm >>>>> starting to look seriously into how to get those customers on board. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>>>> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer >>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 12:54 PM >>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless ISP's >>>>> >>>>> Yeah. >>>>> >>>>> We're teeny tiny yet. I put in about 80 radios last year. Some were >>>>> new some were repairs or upgrades etc. We ended up with a net of >>>>> 52 new >>>>> subs when it all shook out. >>>>> >>>>> I've put in over 50 new subs so far this year! >>>>> >>>>> I'd been hoping to hit 375 wireless subs by the end of this year. >>>>> Now >>>>> I'll be amazed if we end up with less than 425. >>>>> >>>>> Sell out? Now? Why? I'm still able to do this with two people. Me >>>>> and one part timer in the office. The wife spends a few hours per >>>>> week >>>>> on bills too. Sure I'm working more than 8 hours per day most >>>>> days, but >>>>> 2 to 4 of that is on the lists and/or WISPA (you guys are gonna be >>>>> amazed at what's likely to come out of wispa in the next 12 >>>>> months!) and >>>>> push comes to shove I could drop those activities. >>>>> >>>>> Looking back over the last three years we're growing our annual >>>>> revenue >>>>> by about 15 to 16% per year. Even though we've cut our dialup >>>>> base by >>>>> more than 50%. Probably closer to 60 or 70% now. We're running >>>>> about a >>>>> 20% margin overall. And that margin will now start to go up as >>>>> many of >>>>> our fixed costs will not change due to new customers. We won't need >>>>> more fiber run in, we won't need more servers, we won't need more >>>>> office >>>>> computers etc. >>>>> At least not till we put on another 200 to 400 subs. >>>>> >>>>> For the first time in my 12 years in business, I'm having to pay >>>>> income >>>>> tax. >>>>> (remember we closed the copier side and went pure internet around >>>>> 2001 >>>>> so the current business is still debt ridden and only a few years >>>>> old) >>>>> We just sat down with the accountant and I'll spend more in income >>>>> tax >>>>> last year than I did to buy the car I'm driving! In fact, my next >>>>> tax >>>>> bill will be HALF of what I budgeted for network expansion and >>>>> improvement over the next TWO years! >>>>> >>>>> deep sigh >>>>> >>>>> The sad part is, I still drive a car with 260k on it. Any money >>>>> we make >>>>> goes to feed 5 hungry mouths in this house and paying off all of the >>>>> debt from the copier biz. 2 more years and I'm gonna buy that >>>>> vette one >>>>> way or another! grin >>>>> >>>>> But sell out? Now? Sure. For 4x annual revenue I'll think about >>>>> it. >>>>> Other than that, where can I possibly find a job that'll drop down >>>>> to a >>>>> part time commitment in 36 or so months? Be almost completely >>>>> debt free >>>>> and new tools will be measured in the hundreds not thousands? Oh >>>>> yeah, >>>>> I whine about my hours, but I can always schedule time off if I >>>>> want/need. I rarely miss any of the kid's games/plays etc. >>>>> Somedays we >>>>> play hooky at the office and head to the river instead of work. >>>>> And I >>>>> can write off at least part of almost every trip I take. >>>>> >>>>> laters, >>>>> marlon >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 9:57 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless ISP's >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I don't know who told you that. We had our best growth and highest >>>>> earning >>>>>> year last year and this year looks to break that record. Most >>>>>> WISPs I >>>>> talk >>>>>> to say the same. >>>>>> Scriv >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Matt wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I was just wandering. I have heard that wireless ISP's are on the >>>>>>> decline and most of the ones that remain are selling out or just >>>>>>> holding there own. Is that true? I heard there were not as >>>>>>> many at >>>>>>> the last wispcon due to that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Matt >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>>>> >>>>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>>>> >>>>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>> >>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
